Surfriding Killing the salt

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ohio
yea here in the artic up in ohio we dump so much salt on the roads that some day our freash water will be salt water and then i will have to worry about this
 

Vumad

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St. Pete, FL
I really would like some to explain how salt crystals could clog anything, since salt will dissolve in water.

The salt crystals don't clog anything. But I have some pitting on my exhaust ports that would disagree with you on the flushing.

Corrosion is the result of oxidation. Oxidation is the slow degradation of a material due to the loss of electrons through reaction with oxygen. Water not only contains oxygen, but it acts as a delivery method to more efficiently oxidize materials. Anything exposed to water will oxidize quicker than those items kept dry.

Corrosion accelerates dramatically when exposed to electricity. Everyone has seen corrosion on the battery terminals of their car and know that electricity = corrosion. Salt is an electrolyte. It has an electrical charge. It's powerful enough to make our muscle contract, including keeping our heart beating. Salt build up on material in itself is not bad, but the electrical charge of the salt accelerates the oxidation and break down of the materials which is most certainly bad.

Salt = electricity = corrosion.

Soap washes away the salt which prevents the accelerated corrosion. However, even after washing with soap, you should still coat with something like spray silicone. It adds a protective layer that blocks out oxygen and greatly prevents corrosion.

This is a very irrelevant debate.
If given the choice between
1) Fresh water boat
2) salt water boat flushed and coated
3) salt water boat never maintained
all other variables maintained the same, everyone here would make their choice in that order, including those who feel that flushing is not necessary.

Flushed and coated boats have less corrosion, less maintenance, higher resale values and so forth, and no here can provide any real evidence to the contrary.

We all want fresh water or flushed boats for a reason.

Weather or not we should flush isn't the question. It's what gives method gives the best value (price/performance ratio).

I currently flush with the hose, rinse the engine compartment and coat the exposed metals. I am willing to consider flushing with a product, but not at $100/ga. I'm also open to coating with better fluids than WD40. I really like spray silicone, and would like to find it by the gallon.
 
Do you just use the hose mixer attachment like what they sell to wash your car with? Have you ever had any problems with it suds-ing too much and getting into anything it shouldn't? Soap is corrosive itself, how do you make sure all the soap is out? I think Dawn will eat the wax off the paint if you wash the ski with it.

Salt away is $50/ga. I usually flush liberally with clean water but am open to other options. None of them have seemed all that great to me, either expensive or just not any better than liberal use of fresh water (and by the time you flush with soap then flush out the soap, you've likely used the same amount of water anyway).

I am all about keeping my ski minty. I just prefer to spend my money on things that work more than marginally better.
I just squirt about an ounce of the dawn in the hose fitting on the flush kit, then screw the hose on, start the engine, and turn the water on and run the engine until only clear water is coming out the pump and pissers. Some kinds of soap are corrosive, but I don't think dawn is, thats why people choose that brand for this purpose. It will take the wax off, but so does the saltwater after a few rides.
 
oxidation is the death of everything including us. we have to breath air but it kills us at the same time. food / vitamins with anti-oxidants reduce oxidation in the body. the zinc node between the cylinders is for electrolysis. electricity causes erosion of the metal exposed to salt water. electrolysis attacks the zinc as opposed to the motor. i dont think soap does anything but dilute/wash away salt.i dont think it an anti-salt. soap is probably better than nothing, but i dont think it does what salt killer does. salt killer costs alot
 
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HollaHolla

FB Name: Jack Hoff
This might be controversial but.....i've been riding for 30 years and all of it in salt water. I've never flushed a ski and have never seen any impacts of not doing so. My original 701 is still together and running after 19 years of very heavy use in salt. I do rinse the exterior of the engine and ski with fresh water and then coat the engine with Dupont silicone with teflon after each use.

I'm not saying that flushing isn't a good thing, as I'm certain it is. However, I don't believe not flushing is quite as destructive as folks fear.
 

HollaHolla

FB Name: Jack Hoff
This might be controversial but.....i've been riding for 30 years and all of it in salt water. I've never flushed a ski and have never seen any impacts of not doing so. My original 701 is still together and running after 19 years of very heavy use in salt. I do rinse the exterior of the engine and ski with fresh water and then coat the engine with Dupont silicone with teflon after each use.

I'm not saying that flushing isn't a good thing, as I'm certain it is. However, I don't believe not flushing is quite as destructive as folks fear.

What exact Dupont silicone spray do you use?
 

HollaHolla

FB Name: Jack Hoff
There is a good reason for this. The open ocean has a relatively constant salinity level of about 3.5%, but the difference is in local sea surface salinity levels. I have learned this first had. I have been surf riding out west for about ten years and typically ridden two – three days straight in the surf and only briefly flushed and WD-40ed at the end of the weekend. I never had significant corrosion issues. Since I picked up this winter house in Daytona, over the last three years I have been shocked to see how different and aggressive the corrosion is on everything from cars, to skis, to riding bikes on the beach. After discussing this problem at a local marina I was informed about the very high local salinity levels on the eastern, central Florida coast. My guess is that where you are in Jersey is very similar to the west coast, that’s why you are not having any issues. Now I Salt-away, corrosion-x and engine fog after every ride. Here is a link to a 3-d map. There are some others of just the US but I lost the link.

http://science.nasa.gov/earth-science/oceanography/physical-ocean/salinity/


Sorry if the link goes to the wrong map, you have to close the current map that pops up and then click on salinity.

Could you please list the steps in which you flush and spray your ski down. I'll take a crack at it.
1. Fresh Water Flush - 1 oz of down optional
2. Fresh Water spray Engine?
2. Salt-Away Spray entire engine (Any wiping with a rag? Everything in the engine bay? Any other hull components?)
3. CorrosionX Trigger Spray. (Entire Engine?)
4. Let Engine Bay dry and keep hood cracked or off for storage
 

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It's $100/gallon. WD40 is $20/ga. Any other suggestions?

This is an old thread and you probably aren't following it anymore, but it is a case of quality versus quantity. A tall can of corrosion X costs about $20. and lasts me a long, long time (corrosion X hd even better) It does not wash off as easily as many other products. It has high diaelectric qualities which makes it great for electrical connections and battery terminals. Dont use on spark plugs, makes boots too slippery and not needed with msd boots anyway.). It is a great penetrant so it also gets inside cracks and connections to displace moisture and help to prevent corrosion.

Nothing we do, from flushing to spraying anti corrosion products, will stop corrosion problems completely, but taking some steps will certainly make things last longer and help prevent problems. Arguing over which method and what product is used seems silly, make some effort and use something that works for you.
 

HollaHolla

FB Name: Jack Hoff
This is an old thread and you probably aren't following it anymore, but it is a case of quality versus quantity. A tall can of corrosion X costs about $20. and lasts me a long, long time (corrosion X hd even better) It does not wash off as easily as many other products. It has high diaelectric qualities which makes it great for electrical connections and battery terminals. Dont use on spark plugs, makes boots too slippery and not needed with msd boots anyway.). It is a great penetrant so it also gets inside cracks and connections to displace moisture and help to prevent corrosion.

Nothing we do, from flushing to spraying anti corrosion products, will stop corrosion problems completely, but taking some steps will certainly make things last longer and help prevent problems. Arguing over which method and what product is used seems silly, make some effort and use something that works for you.

Do you use the CorrosionX aerosol or trigger spray can to spray all over everything....? small question but I'm trying to get my final method down to keep and stay with. Thank you for your time JetManiac.

I just got a 2014 stock superjet so if you see any used goodies let me know. Busted the budget on getting a newer ski so I'm in the market for anything and everything regarding good used parts....
 

JetManiac

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Do you use the CorrosionX aerosol or trigger spray can to spray all over everything....? small question but I'm trying to get my final method down to keep and stay with. Thank you for your time JetManiac.

I just got a 2014 stock superjet so if you see any used goodies let me know. Busted the budget on getting a newer ski so I'm in the market for anything and everything regarding good used parts....

Aerosol
 
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