lamey vs. 701 super-bore

[DAG]

i'm in the market of some more power, since i desided to hold off on the paint.

I dont know much about lameys but herd they were the best of the best... if you have the $$,$$$.



i'm more than likely going to get my 701 cylenders bored..
whats the max cc's you can safely get out of a 701 cylender?

and how does the power feel, compared to a lamey?

looing for teh best bang for the buck...
and if someone could give me a ballpark $$$ of a bigbore?





My current specs are.
701cc bored 2 over
wiesco pistons
44s with 46 mani and cross over is epoxied
tassinarri 2s
riva reed spacer
riva head 35cc domes
freestyle port by riva
wamiltons b-mod pipe with port macthing
rad flywheel
msd enhancer
proks
protec 85.5 exit nozzle
wet wolf cone
13/17 cut back 3mm
se (sato engineering)adjustable turn nozzle

 

[Prem1x]

Only bored, or are you willing to re-sleeve with bigger sleeves?

 

[DAG]

Humm...
never thought about resleeving.. how much does that run?


Gess i would like to know about both stock sleaves and the bigger furr coats... and the power differeance they hold?


i'm looking to do it all now so i dont keep getting all these small bores every few months and wasting money in the long run porting/boreing here and there...

 

[Matt_E]

I believe there is no comparison between the two, both in the power and price department.
That goes for big bore sleeves on a OEM cylinder vs Lamey as well.

 

[Frosty]

Lamey would be nice, but too pricey for me right now, and probalby too much power as well. :bigeyes:

I'm running a ported 701 with an ADA head w/35cc domes and b-pipe, which is pretty good and way better than stock. But over the winter I am going to have an extra 61x cylinder I have re-sleeved to 84mm bore (760cc) and ported. From everything I have read from many riders here on the X, that should hit plenty hard for my needs.

I think re-sleeving to a 760cc (84mm bore) is probably more than enough for the average rider...

 

[ski4]

i have never given much thought to the lamey's or read about them . the price is just not something i could justify. what makes these ablet o produce all of this extra power over stock?

 

[Don 79 TA]

i personally like the hit of a 701 over the 753 cyl
i'd also look into the rad flywheel to add some more snap
i love the lamey i have now, but it's a stroker setup
you can also go stroker with your 701 cyl but you need a spacer plate i believe for that
i also prefer the wiesco pistons too, as they tend to wind up quicker since they are lighter
do you want to run race gas?
you can definately make your 701 stronger, but the lamey will more then likely give you more growth towards a stronger setup, albeit at a price though

ADA is also making a cylinder now too
there are quite a few options you can go with.

there's also the flat top kawi conversion you can do with the 701 cyl
and for the 753 i believe.

if you are also looking for more low end rip, look at a 13-15 prop too.

you may want to contact Paul from JrMagoos to discuss further options too

 

[Don 79 TA]

i have never given much thought to the lamey's or read about them . the price is just not something i could justify. what makes these ablet o produce all of this extra power over stock?

when you look inside the cyls you will see the differences, like more windows for air flow, smaller windows too, less chance of rings getting hung up, various bores and stroke lengths

and then ofcourse the outside casting, very sturdy

then...
there are the ADA cylinders that will be coming out soon

 

[Idok]

why dont you do a freestyle port?????? dont go too nuts too fast....

 

[FL-cracker]

I will make a thread on how my 780cc runs in about a week or two. Mods are in my Sig.

 

[Matt_E]

Who did the engine?

 

[Freestyleriverrat]

I may be selling my freestyle ported magoo cylinder if you want more power. I am in the process of putting on a Lamy PV and will see how I like it. If I am dead set on the Lamey's performance over the 701 I will need to unload some parts. I tell you what that 701 ported is the sh$#, I got mine to hit like instantly, pull hard and was so clean. If you do anything have Paul do it when he gets his shop back up, his stuff is excelent :biggthumpup:

 

[ski4]

i got a spare top end i think i may ship to him some day. how much ( ball park) does a port job run

 

[freestylegeek]

...If I am dead set on the Lamey's performance over the 701...

What do you mean "If"??
You might as well sell the 760 now.

 

[DAG]

i personally like the hit of a 701 over the 753 cyl
i'd also look into the rad flywheel to add some more snap
do you want to run race gas?
you can definately make your 701 stronger, but the lamey will more then likely give you more growth towards a stronger setup, albeit at a price though

ADA is also making a cylinder now too
there are quite a few options you can go with.

there's also the flat top kawi conversion you can do with the 701 cyl
and for the 753 i believe.

if you are also looking for more low end rip, look at a 13-15 prop too.

you may want to contact Paul from JrMagoos to discuss further options too

i dont wont to go any higher than 93. so no race gas.
i'm currently runing a RAD flywheel
anyone know about teh new ADA cylenders? i'm clueless? any info? price? release date?
i deff plan on paul doing my work.. only 3-4hrs away..


keep teh info coming : ): )

 

[Freestyleriverrat]

What do you mean "If"??
You might as well sell the 760 now.

Its not a 760? You mean the 701 or the Lamey :biggrin: I am probably not ready for the power this thing will make but what the hay.........it's here, all I have to do is assemble it. :cheer: And I was comfortable with the 701's power

 

[Freestyleriverrat]

i dont wont to go any higher than 93. so no race gas.
i'm currently runing a RAD flywheel
anyone know about teh new ADA cylenders? i'm clueless? any info? price? release date?
i deff plan on paul doing my work.. only 3-4hrs away..


keep teh info coming : ): )

I think the ADA cylinders are only set up for stroker cranks

 

[unclehulka13]

Is your riding skill high enough to warrant a new lamey cylinder? A standard cylinder is fine for 75% of people. You dont NEED a lamey to barrel roll, or backflip. It's all about dedication, skill, and desire. Me personally, i couldnt see spending 2k+ on a lamey, when i could build myself a lightweight hull that would make a larger difference.

 

[ski4]

amen

 

[freestylegeek]

i dont wont to go any higher than 93. so no race gas.
i'm currently runing a RAD flywheel
anyone know about teh new ADA cylenders? i'm clueless? any info? price? release date?
i deff plan on paul doing my work.. only 3-4hrs away..


keep teh info coming : ): )

I *think* the ADA kit runs abour $2300 +/- but it's not ready to install - and I don't think it includes pistons.
The sleeves need to be installed and ported, and the cases need to be modified.

A stock stroke Lamey cylinder is $1800, porting is $500, flat top Kawasaki pistons are about $300 and will need to be modified (plus I recomend coating them). Plus you'll need a $450 cylinder head to top it off, with custom flat top domes ($40 for machine work each). Plus, your cases need to be modified to fit the sleeves.

That's just the block.
You would be foolish not to put (at a minimum) dual 44's or 46's with an intake package (v-force or boyesen RAD valves). A factory 'b' pipe. Lightened stock flywheel and an MSD enhancer, or a RAD flywheel, or Total loss.

So basically, if you don't have $5000 to spend on this thing, I would STRONGLY suggest you wait.

Paul has a sweet 760 top end kit that he makes (PancakePete, yamaslut, superJETT, all have it and LOVE it.) I *think* he sells that for around $2500 (forgive me if I'm way off Paul). Plus, you can use that with stock ignition, stock 38's, bla, bla, bla...

Bottom line: Call Paul, tell him what you want, and what you want to spend, and you'll be happy. :arms: