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- Redondo Beach, CA
Outlawing heel locks in competition? seriously?! I can kinda of understand the tether...kind of... but heel locks??
Freestyle Lee Stone WF body tether?
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Quinc
Buy a Superjet
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- California
They need to outlaw anything that isn't a stock 440.
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- stockton
Politics actually run deeper than this. I respect rules, but they shouldn't be made by individuals that flatulent dust? This sport evolves quickly. Safety vs Monopoly is the real argument
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- Cleveland, Ohio
Outlawing heal locks is just plain stupid. Do they want competitors to fall off the ski mid combo and break their face...?
Quinc
Buy a Superjet
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- California
"Well back in my day!"
Or at least let the competitors have some input/vote on the subject.
High Speed Industries
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I think those are based off genuine safety concerns. He explained how the tether is a easy way to drown. If for some reason the ski goes down (hood comes off ect.) you go down with the ship.
I also heard his conversation about the heel lock. They won't be banned, but there will be a height limit to them.
Big Kahuna
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- Tuscaloosa, AL
you could actually have same issue with a heal lock where your inverted and you cannot get out.............
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- Dalhart, TX
Whats the point of outlawing equipment that will allow the rider to perform better tricks? I think the sport won't be able to continue to grow if riders aren't always pushing the limits of their physical capabilities and the machine. People want to see cool tricks and stunts, that's why fmx is so popular. Give the people what they want!
Easy fix, make them put a release on the tether that's similar to what kiteboarders use.
A simple tug on the release that's attached to the vest and they are free.
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bored&stroked
Urban redneck
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- AZ
For closed course competition use by the upper end of ability freestyle riders and there are rescue people available that's just absurd. These aren't college frat kids learning to ride in the middle of the ocean.
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- Reno,NV
The fact is that the tether , like the footholds, handholds, trim and other components are for safety , as well as necessary with increasing trick difficulty ...
Who wants to flip or do 360's with no footholds....
.... If you want to have a run and be constantly hooking and unhooking yourself feel free to give up that time , quite frankly I though it was annoying and took away from the overall flow of the performance furthermore tons of people don't know what the hell is going on anyway....
look mom one foot .....look mom one foot one hand ...look mom no feet one hand.....look mom look no teeth ;0)
On another note think about the risk taken if the trick fails and u have impact with the ski tied to your torso....good times " tether" ...like tether me down under water then
Having footholds, back holds- heel holds, hand holds eliminated should not be allowed due to safety of the rider...heel lock height restriction is also absurd , riders have different heel height.
Let the sport evolve , hey if u come up with a cool idea go for it.....
Who wants to flip or do 360's with no footholds....
.... If you want to have a run and be constantly hooking and unhooking yourself feel free to give up that time , quite frankly I though it was annoying and took away from the overall flow of the performance furthermore tons of people don't know what the hell is going on anyway....
look mom one foot .....look mom one foot one hand ...look mom no feet one hand.....look mom look no teeth ;0)
On another note think about the risk taken if the trick fails and u have impact with the ski tied to your torso....good times " tether" ...like tether me down under water then
Having footholds, back holds- heel holds, hand holds eliminated should not be allowed due to safety of the rider...heel lock height restriction is also absurd , riders have different heel height.
Let the sport evolve , hey if u come up with a cool idea go for it.....
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My best freestyle trick is a Yard Sale along the front straightaway. I need a tether.
@thomps33 has the right idea. A safe tether would solve it. Someone just needs to invent the right solution, distribute it through Hot Products, and pay It's Just Scott's Bank Account under the table to get it added to the rulebook. Tom gets paid, Scott gets paid, and like magic they're allowed again.
@thomps33 has the right idea. A safe tether would solve it. Someone just needs to invent the right solution, distribute it through Hot Products, and pay It's Just Scott's Bank Account under the table to get it added to the rulebook. Tom gets paid, Scott gets paid, and like magic they're allowed again.
Fro Diesel
creative control
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Lets bring back steroids and let people get jacked and try to kill themselves out there!
Yahhbbbbbaaaaha!!!!
Maybe that will shift public opinion of jetskis in the right direction.
Whats wrong with letting the captian go down with his ship? It might make sunk skis easier to recover.
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- Dalhart, TX
I said equipment not drugs. And compared it to freestyle motocross because look at how far that sport has come in 20 years. They are doing double backflips and rock solid flips over dirt. Should they have a safety net underneath every jump because what they are doing is dangerous? Progression of that sport has come from trying things no one else has tried before, and knowing that it is dangerous.
mike b
Michael "Mayhem" Bevacqua aka MikeyChan
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I just wrote up an angry few paragraphs but decided to just delete it all. I don't see the ban on heal locks unless this is just the hurricane style ones. I could see no composite heal locks for safety but this is competition and usually people who know what they are doing. I don't think Tom is a bad guy, I just think this is talk made without thinking too much and good reasoning for it. If for safety then start with the easiest, cheapest, and most obvious thing....HELMETS. I don't like helmets because of their size but I will wear a helmet if needed, but I will not get rid of my heal locks! My safety from not coming loose mid flip/trick is much more important than competing at World Finals. I would see that as a set back for the sport if they start limiting. You want to put limitations on the skis, stick to the power train and CC cap. I see this as people who "don't" or "won't" complaining to be on level playing field. Nothing is holding them back from using the same equipment but themselves. This is competition, not socialism...
BTW I am not a great rider, I consider myself good at best. But I love the sport and the competition scene. I wish there was some different structure at WF for freestyle as far as classes go, but I don't understand why worrying about level playing field for riders in the top class is a big priority when you still have SJs competing against skis that do flips in the lower level. Equipment regulations in the beginner/amateur level I can see a push for safety but those tricks are not being done there. Work your way from the bottom to the top before you get into the fine details about competitive advantage/safety for professional riders....
BTW I am not a great rider, I consider myself good at best. But I love the sport and the competition scene. I wish there was some different structure at WF for freestyle as far as classes go, but I don't understand why worrying about level playing field for riders in the top class is a big priority when you still have SJs competing against skis that do flips in the lower level. Equipment regulations in the beginner/amateur level I can see a push for safety but those tricks are not being done there. Work your way from the bottom to the top before you get into the fine details about competitive advantage/safety for professional riders....
sjetrider
615 Freeriders are addicted to T1 madness.
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Run what you brung IMO at least at the pro level. More rules = less involvement and this sport need MORE involvement not less PERIOD.
Big Kahuna
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Until IJSBA passes a rule, this is all wasted breath or finger pounding............. Not even sure if Tom can even speak for Mr Fraziers Back Pocket.
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- stockton
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From what I understand the rule is already in place for the tether, but I haven't flipped through the rulebook to confirm it.