Long girdle studs

I just figured that you can have those somewhere near the center of the stud. If all you can get is one length and will need to add to it one way or another these are an easy addition. But if you have the resources to have custom length studs made then yeah, definitely go with that.
 

Big Kahuna

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I remember something being written about the 2 pc studs, when you tighten the bottoms down and torque them, then you tighten the top half, it can cause additional torque to the lower bolts making uneven torque specs around the cylinder.
 
Some thoughts, possibly dumb ideas but I'll throw them out there.

first, everybody wants stainless steel, but stainless steel in aluminum is not a great combination. There are various forms of "zinc flake" finishes out there for fasteners that have really high corrosion resistance. I've been using fasteners with zinc flake finishes on my skis but I'm a freshwater guy (and none of them have been together for more than a season or two) so I couldn't say anything about how they work in salt water, but seems like it would be worth looking into, you could have much higher strength steel fasteners and much less likely to sieze in the aluminum hole. Bonus is that steel stuff sticks to a magnet if you drop it in the hull.

Geomet/Dacromet, Magni, Doerken are a few of them, they are also sometimes called "dip spin" finishes.

Second, you really only need the one side, no? Could sell a "half girdle" hardware set to save some dough. That's not great from the perspective of the guy selling things (selling less), but maybe it kind of is because you could sell a half girdle hardware set for a lot less than a full girdle from ADA I would imagine, so that motivates people to buy from you rather than straight from ADA for the cheapskates (such as myself, I have a single girdled hardware kit split between two skis currently). Maybe with the change in volume there is not really any savings for having half as many studs, again I dunno.
 

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
Some thoughts, possibly dumb ideas but I'll throw them out there.

first, everybody wants stainless steel, but stainless steel in aluminum is not a great combination. There are various forms of "zinc flake" finishes out there for fasteners that have really high corrosion resistance. I've been using fasteners with zinc flake finishes on my skis but I'm a freshwater guy (and none of them have been together for more than a season or two) so I couldn't say anything about how they work in salt water, but seems like it would be worth looking into, you could have much higher strength steel fasteners and much less likely to sieze in the aluminum hole. Bonus is that steel stuff sticks to a magnet if you drop it in the hull.

Geomet/Dacromet, Magni, Doerken are a few of them, they are also sometimes called "dip spin" finishes.

Second, you really only need the one side, no? Could sell a "half girdle" hardware set to save some dough. That's not great from the perspective of the guy selling things (selling less), but maybe it kind of is because you could sell a half girdle hardware set for a lot less than a full girdle from ADA I would imagine, so that motivates people to buy from you rather than straight from ADA for the cheapskates (such as myself, I have a single girdled hardware kit split between two skis currently). Maybe with the change in volume there is not really any savings for having half as many studs, again I dunno.
We have them coming in stainless, all 6 studs washers and acorn nuts for 50 usd shipped
 
Some thoughts, possibly dumb ideas but I'll throw them out there.

first, everybody wants stainless steel, but stainless steel in aluminum is not a great combination. There are various forms of "zinc flake" finishes out there for fasteners that have really high corrosion resistance. I've been using fasteners with zinc flake finishes on my skis but I'm a freshwater guy (and none of them have been together for more than a season or two) so I couldn't say anything about how they work in salt water, but seems like it would be worth looking into, you could have much higher strength steel fasteners and much less likely to sieze in the aluminum hole. Bonus is that steel stuff sticks to a magnet if you drop it in the hull.

Geomet/Dacromet, Magni, Doerken are a few of them, they are also sometimes called "dip spin" finishes.

Second, you really only need the one side, no? Could sell a "half girdle" hardware set to save some dough. That's not great from the perspective of the guy selling things (selling less), but maybe it kind of is because you could sell a half girdle hardware set for a lot less than a full girdle from ADA I would imagine, so that motivates people to buy from you rather than straight from ADA for the cheapskates (such as myself, I have a single girdled hardware kit split between two skis currently). Maybe with the change in volume there is not really any savings for having half as many studs, again I dunno.

To use half the girdle studs you would need a half girdle which only Group K makes and then you can only run the stock head which requires professional machining to change the compression.

Much easier to just buy an ADA head for $300.
 
To use half the girdle studs you would need a half girdle which only Group K makes and then you can only run the stock head which requires professional machining to change the compression.

Much easier to just buy an ADA head for $300.

I have two skis running with ADA heads with girdle bolts on one side and regular bolts on the other. Some reason that's bad?

For $50 I'll probably just buy full girdle sets from Wax in the future, but at the time I wanted to assemble two skis and I only had one girdle set, so far no problems.
 
I have two skis running with ADA heads with girdle bolts on one side and regular bolts on the other. Some reason that's bad?

For $50 I'll probably just buy full girdle sets from Wax in the future, but at the time I wanted to assemble two skis and I only had one girdle set, so far no problems.
I wouldn't think it's ideal since your head is being pulled down on the side with the girdle studs and the other side isn't. Uneven torque isn't a good thing.
 
Also those two pc girdle studs like to get stuck in the cases if you put any significant torque on them. And I don't see the point of the Allen key slot In the top, just use a stud driver socket if necessary.
 

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
They are in store and ready to go guys
 
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