Freestyle Looking for a freestyle ski and have questions

[Cptn_stababitch]

I’m sure I’m going to get flamed here but here’s a shot.

I’ve never been much of a water person. Boats do not interest me, I’ve always liked jetskis in general but never enough to buy one really.

However, I keep getting videos in my feed on tik tok and stuff of people doing backflips on these stand up skis and it has me really wanting one. Whether or not I’ll be able to ride one and learn how to do it, I have no idea. I’ve asked all around the area and none of my friends have one nor do they know of anyone with one. These are not popular at all in my area.

Having said that I have friends with boats and stuff and they are always asking me to go. Figured I could tie up to them hangout in their boat for a while and go on with my business.

I have no interest in buying a shell and buying a motor and what not to build a freestyle ski. I have never ridden one. I’ve been on dirt bikes and quads my whole life, but this is all unchartered territory.

What I’m looking for is a ski that’s capable of backflips in flat water. I got to reading around and it seems like you’ve got to have a pretty healthy motor to do so.

So I found krash skis and for every hood review there is one bad review. There’s one of fb marketplace (closest freestyle ski to me) at about 2.5 hours away over in St. Louis.

Guy is 52 years old, has ridden stand up skis most of his life, it’s a 2022 krash foot rocket 1200. It’s fuel injected. Apparantly will do backflips out of the crate. He said he’s ram approx 3 tanks of fuel through it. I can pick it up for 10k.

There was also a modded super jet 2006 with a 716 in it that apparantly will do flips as well but it is up by Chicago and guy is asking 9500 for it.

I’m mechanicly inclined, not afraid to tear into things but I know NOtHiNG about skis or boats. Some people I’m sure is going to say don’t get a ski like that to learn on, but I’m not going to buy twice, I’ll either buy one and learn and like it or hate it and I’ll be done with it if I hate it.

I hate to spend 10k having never ridden one but i can’t find anyone that has one so ‍♂️

 

[Quinc]

Start with a basic oem ski and learn how to ride first. It will be a much more enjoyable experience. I would start with a 701cc Superjet. The backflip skis have a steep learning curve for basic riding and standing up etc. It will be very frustrating as your first ski. The krash foot rocket will be a middle ground between a superjet and a backflip ski. You will be able to flip it with enough practice and a boat wake, but more importantly it will be an all around fun ski to ride.

 

[97superjet]

Krash is very hit or miss it seems.... personally I would get a nice superjet, learn to ride it and then upgrade to a carbon hull. I have a 701 carbon superfreak and a 900 circus, the 701 in the right hands will do most anything on a lake, just dont expect it to idle flip...to do that you will need some more $$$ and tray time

 

[Sparkplug]

If there is a lake in your area. With boats on it. Someone is into stand up skis. Hit up the facebook groups. Id bet money there isna group within a hour of you willing to let you test a ski. Go see if you can even ride one. Tons of people can't or flat out don't have the stamina it takes to enjoy it.

I'll go against what others said and say get a aftermarket hull from the getgo. They are better in every single way. A superjet isn't easier to ride. It's more tame. The basic concept of riding a stand up can be learned on a 300sx, or a xfr 1100.

 

[800750]

If you want to buy once and cry once you are going to have to up the budget closer to 20k. Even with a quality ski you will break a ton of stuff and it isn't cheap. I would highly recommend hitting up mark Gomez, Chris anizeki, lee stone or highspeed industries for a lesson. Yes I know it's a fair amount of money but they are all good teachers and have equipment that will get you to flat water flip. Then you can get a real feeling for it and decide if it's something you would like to continue to pursue.
Some people get it right away, others like my self it takes several years to get a flat water flip dialed and some expensive blown motors along they way. Anyways I'd highly recommend a lesson and see if you have the passion for it.

 

[DylanS]

Do not buy a Krash with a Krash driveline.
That is the most solid piece of advice I can give you.
Your best bet for 10ish-k is to find a nice freestyle hull with a nicely setup 700-800cc package with a pipe. You won’t have crazy balls to the wall power (which a Krash 1200 does not have) but you’ll have a reliable snappy setup that’s capable of throwing down and will be a great learning tool while keeping maintenance prices down.
Skis break. Skis with big money big cc setups break a lot. Invest in a nice hull early and build it as you learn and progress.
You haven’t ridden one yet and although you may be mechanically inclined the world of big cc freestyle skis is not one that many can just walk into without getting burned out within the year.
you wouldn’t have hopped on a kx500 for your first bike and it’s the same concept here lol and a dialed big cc flatwater ski is downright vicious and a lot to handle for even experienced riders.
Getcha self a am hull with a piped built 701 and go put time on it. With practice you could be FW flipping. With balls you can be flipping off boat wake. That superjet that’s modded isn’t flat water flipping, especially not with that package, so I wouldn’t waste your time on something overpriced that won’t get what you want out of anyways.
Welcome to the sport!!

 

[fastgtfairlane]

Crawl before you run applies to jetskis

 

[Sparkplug]

A Ferrari chassis with a 5.3 would be helluva lot more fun, and capable, than a camaro eith a 5.3.

Superjet with 701 vs short am hull with 701

Any skilled rider, who actually has tray time riding well designed aftermarket hulls. Can ride circles around a superjet in every single aspect of riding except die hard out right Racing. There is NOTHING a superjet can do better. And when people say they are "EASIER" to ride. They just mean that they are able to ride them.

If I get on a superjet after rising my xfr. It feels like a absolute turd. It doesn't turn at all. Feels like a brick. Hard as hell to ride until I adjust after about 30 minutes or so. They are NOT easier to ride. They are tame. Like a 150f dirtbike

 

[kevbo]

Flat water flip skis are very short and have very short poles. Going over 15 MPH requires the rider be bent way over and thats not very comfortable. You can stand straight up on full length Superjet but it wont flip without a big wave. Free ride skis are somewhere in between. If you want to flip then get a dedicated flip boat and keep a long hull for everything else.

 

[Sparkplug]

Flat water flip skis are very short and have very short poles. Going over 15 MPH requires the rider be bent way over and thats not very comfortable. You can stand straight up on full length Superjet but it wont flip without a big wave. Free ride skis are somewhere in between. If you want to flip then get a dedicated flip boat and keep a long hull for everything else.

That's not true at all. Refer to my previous statement where a skilled rider can ride circles around a superjet.

I ride a xfr. All day. It doesn't hurt my back. Doesnt make me tired. Nothing like that. Superjets are cool. But am hulls are 10x better.

 

[kevbo]

I guess the question is "Can you ride all day bent way over?" If so get whatever you want. If not you will get a really sore back trying to.

 

[Sparkplug]

That's not true either. I've gotten MANY people stand ups. At least 5 people own aftermarket hulls and fully built skis and trailer setups, because they met me riding stand ups. I've let hundreds of people ride my superjets. Blasters. Ts. And rickters. I'd wager I've seen more newbies ride skis than 90 percent of ski riders.

99 percent all struggle. No one gets it at first. Regardless if it's. A superjet. A Chan. A raider. A rickter. A blaster. All of it has a learning curve. Why not learn with the best equipment if your looking for peak results.

This dude wants to flip. Wants to excel. Progress. You cant do that on a superjet. You can on a am hull. Plain and simple.

 

[Sanoman]

Had any luck @Cptn_stababitch

 

[johnmarchetta34]

If you want to buy once and cry once you are going to have to up the budget closer to 20k. Even with a quality ski you will break a ton of stuff and it isn't cheap. I would highly recommend hitting up mark Gomez, Chris anizeki, lee stone or highspeed industries for a lesson. Yes I know it's a fair amount of money but they are all good teachers and have equipment that will get you to flat water flip. Then you can get a real feeling for it and decide if it's something you would like to continue to pursue.
Some people get it right away, others like my self it takes several years to get a flat water flip dialed and some expensive blown motors along they way. Anyways I'd highly recommend a lesson and see if you have the passion for it.

I agree with this 100% Well worth the money