Looking to buy Freestyle ski but need advice

Canadian_l3acon

Canadian_l3acon

Location
Boise Idaho
I am brand new to the freestyle scene. I own a sea doo spark trixx and love it, but have tapped out the learning curve of tricks on it and want something more. I am hoping to get information/advice on which route to go. In my ideal world I want a freestyle ski that uses pump gas, that I can use to flatwater flip (once I get more experience on it) and then casual riding when tired. What I would like to know is which engines can operate using pump gas but still flat water flip? I have tried to find a thread that addresses this, but my guess is most people know by looking at the engine whether it will run pump gas or race gas. I am sure there are quite a few variables to this, but if you guys could impart some of your experience with me I would greatly appreciate!
 
tricky1

tricky1

XXX
Location
Alabama
I have a -6 carbon superfreak with an XS900r 10mm stroker on pump gas that will flip and also cruise the lake or chase boats just fine for sale if interested.
 
DAG

DAG

Yes, my balls tickled from that landing
Location
Charlotte, NC
Most but not every motor can run pump gas it's just a matter of changing the head.

But what I think you are asking just because it can run pump gas doesn't mean you can chase down a boat at wide open throttle. Most freestyle flip pump gas motors arnt designed to hold WOT more than a few seconds before they build to much heat and a multitude of other factors. Aka it's not so much about the gas as it is about the port timing
 
Citizen

Citizen

Location
Coeur D' Alene, ID
I have a carbon superfreak badass i am selling. Either the hull or complete. I am just north of you in coeur d alene. Bit of a drive, but would save you 400 in shipping and you could ride it before buying.
 
Canadian_l3acon

Canadian_l3acon

Location
Boise Idaho
DAG said:
Most but not every motor can run pump gas it's just a matter of changing the head.

But what I think you are asking just because it can run pump gas doesn't mean you can chase down a boat at wide open throttle. Most freestyle flip pump gas motors arnt designed to hold WOT more than a few seconds before they build to much heat and a multitude of other factors. Aka it's not so much about the gas as it is about the port timing
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I wasn't aware of that about pump gas engines, would it be safe to hold it down at a 1/2 - 3/4 throttle, or would heat still build up too much?
 
High Speed Industries

High Speed Industries

Your one stop shop for quality parts @highspeedind
Location
Lake Havasu City, AZ
I'd get yourself a Superjet and figure out how to throw that around first.
Everyone I've met that goes straight to AM skis can't ride very well. It's like skipping an important step in the learning curve.

Just an FYI. The question you asked is like asking "what oil is the best" you going to get many different options and lots of off the wall answers.

Good luck with your endeavors.
 
Canadian_l3acon

Canadian_l3acon

Location
Boise Idaho
I appreciate the advice! Thing is, I ride my Spark as if it was a standup ski (sitting less than 1% of the ride), as well as harder than anyone I have seen on the water. People look at me like I am crazy, but I just love ripping it on the lake. I do feel as though a good fit would be a stand up ski, and I learn quickly so I think even though initially a freestyle ski would be difficult I could pick it up.
 
Canadian_l3acon

Canadian_l3acon

Location
Boise Idaho
KMN said:
Buy a Superjet, if you like that, buy something more, you’ll always need a Superjet. It’s all Superjet based, so the stuff you learn will carry forward well.
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I will definitely consider this option. I don't think I would be sorry buying a superjet to start, but I can't help but think I would get bored and want more power in the longrun.

Lm12 said:
Ive got the best of the best available in the classifieds. Xscream helium visual carbon with TPE 1200. Pro level ski that will flip itself.
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It is a beautiful ski, but the 1200 engine would be too much. Seems like that ski would be out of my league. I am looking for a ski with an engine around 850cc - 950cc give or take. Pump gas would be ideal too.
 
wanderer1

wanderer1

Location
Cruising Around
Maybe off topic here but this whole pump gas thing boggles me. So people want the high dollar lightweight/strong carbon hull, bad ass high energy ignition, billet stroker PV ported engine, big modified carbs, big pump with kick ass trim, dry pipe make me a star ski but then want to skimp on fuel? This whole pump versus race gas thing has got to stop. It's a dead horse that called me and said stop beating it. The fuel is not that much and the quality is what you are paying for just like the ski. Pump gas quality varies state to state and station to stAtion so it is not a valid metric. Move on to a topic or metric that has not born out a self evident answer. Have a great day and hope ya find what ya want.
 
KMN

KMN

Location
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Canadian_l3acon said:
I will definitely consider this option. I don't think I would be sorry buying a superjet to start, but I can't help but think I would get bored and want more power in the longrun.


It is a beautiful ski, but the 1200 engine would be too much. Seems like that ski would be out of my league. I am looking for a ski with an engine around 850cc - 950cc give or take. Pump gas would be ideal too.
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Buy a Superjet, used one, ride the hell out of it, resell it and not lose much at all.

Buy as much ski as you can afford, something setup well, you won’t regret it.
 
zzylstra

zzylstra

Location
Valley Springs, CA
wanderer1 said:
Maybe off topic here but this whole pump gas thing boggles me. So people want the high dollar lightweight/strong carbon hull, bad ass high energy ignition, billet stroker PV ported engine, big modified carbs, big pump with kick ass trim, dry pipe make me a star ski but then want to skimp on fuel? This whole pump versus race gas thing has got to stop. It's a dead horse that called me and said stop beating it. The fuel is not that much and the quality is what you are paying for just like the ski. Pump gas quality varies state to state and station to stAtion so it is not a valid metric. Move on to a topic or metric that has not born out a self evident answer. Have a great day and hope ya find what ya want.
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Canadian_l3acon

Canadian_l3acon

Location
Boise Idaho
wanderer1 said:
Maybe off topic here but this whole pump gas thing boggles me. So people want the high dollar lightweight/strong carbon hull, bad ass high energy ignition, billet stroker PV ported engine, big modified carbs, big pump with kick ass trim, dry pipe make me a star ski but then want to skimp on fuel? This whole pump versus race gas thing has got to stop. It's a dead horse that called me and said stop beating it. The fuel is not that much and the quality is what you are paying for just like the ski. Pump gas quality varies state to state and station to stAtion so it is not a valid metric. Move on to a topic or metric that has not born out a self evident answer. Have a great day and hope ya find what ya want.
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You are probably right that for most riders going with the high octane race fuel makes sense, but for me I don't plan on doing competition runs, just something to have fun with on the lake. The reason I like the idea of pump gas is because it is more convenient and as you mentioned, lower cost. Down the road if I really love it and want to go beyond recreational use, I will most likely switch to race fuel engines.
 
wanderer1

wanderer1

Location
Cruising Around
Canadian_l3acon said:
You are probably right that for most riders going with the high octane race fuel makes sense, but for me I don't plan on doing competition runs, just something to have fun with on the lake. The reason I like the idea of pump gas is because it is more convenient and as you mentioned, lower cost. Down the road if I really love it and want to go beyond recreational use, I will most likely switch to race fuel engines.
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sadly I feel you missed the point of my post. good luck and have fun
 
J

Joeggernaut

Location
North Carolina
Just buy a stock superjet or lightly modded one, if you want to backflip there are plenty of wake surfers on the lake to chase or you can jump surf waves. Then when you get tired you can still rip around realible and fast. 75ish horsepower on a 300lb ski is plenty especially when you are forced to stand up on something that is way smaller than any sit-down. You can't even stand up or sit on it while stopped, that is how much different it is from any sit down.

See video below for tips on how to jump waves without having a full on free style ski:
 
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