My interpretation of X Metal trim flow guard

speedysprocket

speedysprocket

Alex
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Chesapeake, VA
So I don't care for the maintenance of having the b-pipe coupler on my trim ring, plus I couldn't get the hose clamp to fit with my protec nozzle. So my first trim ring, I welded thin stainless on either side to fill the gap at full steering. I feel that while the tabs would help flow in one direction, they hurt in the other direction as they blocked some flow. So after crushing and trying to straighten that nozzle about four times, I finally bought a new ring. This time I welded extra material onto the nozzle to fill the gaps. It's not the miracle mod to instantly make you 360 capable, but it probably gave me an extra 60-70 degrees of rotation on my flat water 360 attempts...
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TheBuzzard

TheBuzzard

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speedysprocket said:
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no, i sold them and they are gone. like i said, the reduction nozzle had about another inch or more welded on and then they were bored. they were drop nozzles but i flipped the trim ring over and made them up setups. with the reduction nozzle being extended and close to hitting the turn nozzle, it made it even harder for the pressure to flow backwards out the gaps. both setups i had came off pro class WF superstock race boats.
 
wanderer1

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Pretty sure the no longer produced Pro Tec reduction nozzles are longer than oem Yamaha. I no longer have any to measure, but they are out there and maybe someone can verify. I know the Pro Tec trim systems I had did not have the gap that others utilizing oe Yamaha nozzles. Good work OP, every little bit helps.
 
TheBuzzard

TheBuzzard

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the protec reduction nozzle is not longer but it is a bigger casting that can be bored to a larger diameter. that also means you have to grind the crap out of it if you want more degrees out of it. old racing tech didnt have the trim pointing straight down like flip nozzles on gutless skis need to be. the protec nozzle is the big bulbous casting that holds more water like the stock GP800s.
 
NVJAY775

NVJAY775

My home away from home.
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Gardnerville, Nevada, United States
I ran a pro tec al steering nozzle this season and am switching to a plastic OEM next season.

My al one has been modded many times (grinded, then glassed a few times lol) but it seems guys running the OEM plastic steering nozzle have less issues with blowing the coupler out and also less bent steering cables. They are a bit different in a few ways. But they were designed for racing. Not sure if that makes a difference, or not.

Also I noticed you don't need to adjust the steering throw nearly as much once you use something like this. My steering currently is in the stock location (or less) and 360's off my own wake are no problem. And way less coupler and cable issues with the shortened throw.

My son is running an OEM Steering nozzle on xmetal trim and it has never failed, while mine has numerous times. And I had to make my coupler bigger than his to cover the larger gaps in the pro-tec.

I had my reduction nozzle bored, then had the pro-tec bored to whatever % over it's supposed to be. That made a nice little difference for me. I measured the OEM plastic and it's VERY close to the same ID as what I had mine bored to. So... Switching it up and see how that goes next season. Pretty sure I'll be in good shape.
 
wanderer1

wanderer1

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There is one of my pro tec systems at full lock on the bench not with a turn plate. Sure don't look like the gap others have with different trim setups. Whatcha think? Too bad Pro Tec don't make them anymore.
 

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wanderer1

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Yep, I see what youre saying. The issue isn't in the nozzle, its how the ring locates it? You made a nice mod, just showing the location without having to mod on the pro tec.
 
speedysprocket

speedysprocket

Alex
Location
Chesapeake, VA
wanderer1 said:
Yep, I see what youre saying. The issue isn't in the nozzle, its how the ring locates it? You made a nice mod, just showing the location without having to mod on the pro tec.
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I suppose it is how the ring locates it. Like I said, my first mod to this trim was to weld the ring to fill those gaps, but they had to be angled in so much to clear the nozzle as it turned that I think it was hurting flow at full lock. I did this to avoid having to lube my trim every time I ride and still get as much out of it as I can, because I do like my surf 360s...!
And yes, the Protec does come longer than the plastic 62T. I cut the Protec down to the same length as the 62t because I hated the extra effort it took to turn with the long nozzle, but wanted the aluminum nozzle because I kept smashing plastic ones on the bottom...
 
wanderer1

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When mentioning length I was referring to the reduction nozzle. The steering nozzle is available in 2 lengths. Seems like you have a nice functional unit, just thinking it would be easier to procure a ProTec system than all the mod work. Can get 20 degrees of throw which is plenty. Just trying to provide an option is all. Have fun
 
wanderer1

wanderer1

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Wonder if you could cut and heli-arc the actuating arm on one of the Yamaha oem trim rings with the rubber side flaps to work with the XMetal bracket/cable location? That could be another long term "fix".
 
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