Freestyle need help with x-metal trim kit ,only getting 18 deg. throw

[feartheride]

I have the x-metal trim kit installed on my boat and it is suposse to be getting 25-30 deg of throw..
I only get 18 deg. but the nozzle has the ability to get 25 deg.
the nozzle is not reaching it's full potential when the lever is pulled and does not go all the way down when released.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the throw is limited only by your lever ,other then the ratio of where it att. at the pump..assuming it is not limited by your nozzle ..

Anyone else having this trouble ?

 

[snowxr]

First, are you using the supplied lever? Second, is the trim ring hitting the reduction nozzle anywhere? Did you grind the pivot point bosses on the reduction nozzle to make the trim ring move freely? Any cable play?

 

[feartheride]

Yes using supplied lever. nozzle has 25 deg throw when unattatched from cable. No cable play.
The only thing I can come up with is the lever is wrong..
If the end of the lever didn't hit the bar first. examle; it was curved forward more,I would get more throw

 

[Schmidty721]

I noticed this as well when I first installed my X-metal trim. I put on a Mt. Bike lever I had which allowed me to get all of the throw the trim ring + grinding allowed me. I ran it with the Mt. bike lever for a few rides and just switched back the the lever provided with the x-metal kit because it is much easier to pull. I'm not sure what I'm getting for deg. but it's less than 25.

 

[feartheride]

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[feartheride]

anyone else having this trouble

 

[feartheride]

hello is anyone actually checking there throw when they install this ?

 

[Matt_E]

Seems you got a good answer in post #4.
Try a different lever, those are cheap.

 

[Buckwild12]

My x-metal trim in my opinion is crap, I'm switching to a thrust trim system this winter. I have the same problem, the supplied cable is crap, skewed up after 1 season, I don't like the supplied lever at all. Good think I don't need trim to flip my ski! I can't even tell you the last time I used my trim.

 

[NVJAY775]

Mine's been holding up pretty good. The cable shielding is pretty soft and gets skinned up very easy. My throw is good. I have to do some minor glass work this winter to accommodate the throw when the bars are turned. But in hind sight, I probably should have held out for the thrust. Not sure how they hold up though. A couple bummers about the xmetal is no install instructions, cost when finished is more than initial purchase price. I think somewhere around $425 to $450 when done? I may be wrong on that. But mine has been working great so far and has been used a lot.

 

[feartheride]

Seems you got a good answer in post #4.
Try a different lever, those are cheap.

That,s my point Matt. I'm trying to explain to team scream that the supplied lever does,t give you the throw it is suppose to as far as I can see,unless I'm missing something..i shouldn't have to go out trying to find a different lever that works..It should come with it,, I haven't any issues with it other then not getting full throw..

 

[Robin_aftermarket_Hood]

I have Xmetal trim system on my SJ ('04), and using the supplied lever have no problem; you should be able to adjust it properly to get max throw. Is the barrel screwed on to the cable as far as possible?

 

[sjetrider]

The x-metal setup is definately not plug and play and does not hold up well either. The stainless ring was a good idea but was made too small and the lever is so hard to pull with any thrust to the nossel at all its insane. The Trust system is so superior to the x-metal but yes you will pay for the difference.

X-metal trim = cheap alternative to cats, some tweaking involded for sure, hard to pull and does not hold up (trim ring stop nub rubs thru nossel in half a season) Cable itself I like.

Thrust system = superior design, complete bolt on product with VERY little modification required (maybe cutting steering cable down a little) and easy to pull and instal.
Blowsion = nice once installed but hard to pull and too many little BS parts making it too complicated IMO and WAY overpriced for what you get. Still better than X-Metal.

just my opinion and yes I know it was not asked for LOL.

 

[snowxr]

I agree that the supplied lever (Odyssey mtn. bike) is a poor choice. The plain steel hardware rusts, and not all of it can be replaced with off the shelf stainless hardware. The second time I rode the ski, the cable adjuster rattled loose and fell out. This was a blessing in disguise, because I counterbored the lever housing to insert the cable end without an adjuster. Now the adjustment is handled on the nozzle end only. I still need to grind even more off the nozzle, because it jams the trim ring at full tilt on tail landings (farther than the lever can pull it) and the spring isn't strong enough to pull it down. Pinning the throttle might force it, but that isn't always convenient.

I'd also like to see them include a nice set of instructions.

 

[speedysprocket]

I just solved my throw issue: I drilled and tapped the bottom of the venturi and put a set screw in there to act as a stop so the nozzle sits at a neutral if not slightly up position. Also had to cut about 1/4" off the splice nut for the rod end. Now my bond line os cut flush on top and the nozzle still hits it before the lever bottoms out! I also don't run the spring. It makes it a lot easier to pull, and the pump always brings it back to neutral anyways.

 

[snowxr]

Er.......huh? "Venturi?" "Splice nut for rod end?" "Bond line os cut flush.....?"


Pictures?

Other than incorrectly spelling "is" I understand him perfectly.

 

[speedysprocket]

Thanks

 

[feartheride]

venturi / exit nozzle
bond line cut flush / the lip at the back of tray that obstructs water flow when trim is pulled

splice nut / I would have to look at mine to understand what he talks of

 

[speedysprocket]

The connector between the cable and the rod end that bolts to the trim ring.
Now if the cable would just stop stretching, I'd be all set...