Need some input on Ride it Like you own it,,,and power to expect from stock

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Mcmarkrazz

Location
wisconsin
So second ride on the ski and like i do I rode it like I own it...I tried taking off from my dock by gas and jump but the power just isnt there to get me hydro planed quick enough.. I was able to get it done the second try but even when I am taking off from in the water some times it takes some time to get to speed and hydro plane.

I weight 190 so not a big pig and compression is 150 per side so engine should be strong..
Not looking to drop money into the ski but would like to be able to gun and go and do dry take offs from my pier..

Just put a post spring in the handle Blowsion ( wat a PITA pitting that in alone) and it def helped a bit but the steering is still sloppy with play making tight turns hard which was another issue i thought i would address. Do these just not turn sharp?

Is this the power that is expected stock or is something a miss? Never rode another so no comparisons and never seen another person riding one so once again no comparisons.
Anyone in Wisconsin I am in Beaver Dam if you wanna ride Lol then I could get some comps..lol

Last question is that it was a little choppy and I was getting some serious air , not always on purpose, I notice when landing I lost a lot of power and at some point I would even lose planning after multiple wave jumps. Is that the norm?

Any and all input apreicaited, thanks for the great forum
 
Roseand

Roseand

The Weaponizer
Site Supporter
Location
Wisconsin
Welcome to the forum! I read your other thread, and you talk about when you lost power you noticed there were a lot of weeds in the intake grate. Well, if your pump isn't getting enough water, you're not going to have the full amount of thrust..Sometimes getting full of weeds is inevitable if you can't drive away from it. It can happen with a stock barred intake grate too. Trust me, I know. When the weedcutters come through a lake I ride, I've had plenty of times where my intake was clogged after trying to get away from my pier.
Steering slop is fixable, and if the steering is all stock the bushings could be worn out or it's just not tightened(I have never had stock steering on a boat, so I don't know how sloppy they are compared to some aftermarket models, but an old square like that might just be worn.) Do they turn sharp? Yeah, if you mod the steering. You have to drill a hole closer to the nozzle(create a new pivote for the steering cable to attach to), and then move the pivot on your turn plate as well.
 
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Mcmarkrazz

Location
wisconsin
Thanks for the input..i stopped a few times when I notices issues with power and pulled out the weeds to fix it picked a line without weeds when I tried dock take-off but maybe they still got sucked up so great point I will try again today and see if the outcome changes.
 
aytee

aytee

Location
south dakota
Make sure it's got good spark plugs and compression... both would result in power lack... don't bother with steering until power issue is resolved, power will affect steering in a pretty big way...
 
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Mcmarkrazz

Location
wisconsin
150 per cylinder, new plugs, filter,carb cleaner spray and I can dock start now but still not as powerfull as it should be..thinking a carb rebuild is needed
 
aytee

aytee

Location
south dakota
That or electrical.. could be low voltage to the plugs... it's hard to guess without actually seeing it perform.. could be impeller also...
 
King Kang

King Kang

Never enough tray time...
Location
Cary, NC
I'm 200lbs and I have no problems getting a stock 650 SN to plane out. I've taught many people how to ride standups, and it can be hard for a beginner to do it. Sometimes, it is impossible, especially for people who are out of shape and weigh 300lbs or more.

For the beginner, it is best to start on a calm day with minimal waves. Try holding on like Superman and puttering out from shore (and the weeds.) Once you're clear of anything that can get in your intake grate, let your legs hang vertically in the water while you let the ski idle. This will help you balance the ski when you can't touch the bottom of the lake. When you're ready, give the ski a steady 1/8th to 1/4 throttle pull, with your elbows on the tops of the side rails. Take care to pull your nuts up above the jet stream, because a sudden, accidental throttle pull has the potential to punch you in the balls. Don't try to get up on your knees immediately, just hold on like Superman and travel in a straight line until you feel the right speed where the ski has the stability to support your weight. Keep the throttle steady and maintain a straight line, then in one fluid motion, pull yourself up onto your knees using your elbows as leverage. If you vary the throttle, or back off the throttle, the ski will lose stability and you'll fall off. Once you're on your knees, you can get a better feel for the ski. Try zipping around a bit and cut some turns. You should try turning sharply under 1/2 throttle until you can feel the ski unhook and skip across the water. That'll help you understand the ski's initial cornering limitations. It should only take you about five minutes of knee riding to become comfortable with throttle response, deceleration, and basic cornering. At this point, it is time to stand up. Remember, when you fall off, don't let go of the handlebars, just release the throttle.

If your ski is unable to provide enough thrust for you to accomplish the above, there is probably something wrong with it.
 
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Mcmarkrazz

Location
wisconsin
King Kang said:
I'm 200lbs and I have no problems getting a stock 650 SN to plane out. I've taught many people how to ride standups, and it can be hard for a beginner to do it. Sometimes, it is impossible, especially for people who are out of shape and weigh 300lbs or more.

For the beginner, it is best to start on a calm day with minimal waves. Try holding on like Superman and puttering out from shore (and the weeds.) Once you're clear of anything that can get in your intake grate, let your legs hang vertically in the water while you let the ski idle. This will help you balance the ski when you can't touch the bottom of the lake. When you're ready, give the ski a steady 1/8th to 1/4 throttle pull, with your elbows on the tops of the side rails. Take care to pull your nuts up above the jet stream, because a sudden, accidental throttle pull has the potential to punch you in the balls. Don't try to get up on your knees immediately, just hold on like Superman and travel in a straight line until you feel the right speed where the ski has the stability to support your weight. Keep the throttle steady and maintain a straight line, then in one fluid motion, pull yourself up onto your knees using your elbows as leverage. If you vary the throttle, or back off the throttle, the ski will lose stability and you'll fall off. Once you're on your knees, you can get a better feel for the ski. Try zipping around a bit and cut some turns. You should try turning sharply under 1/2 throttle until you can feel the ski unhook and skip across the water. That'll help you understand the ski's initial cornering limitations. It should only take you about five minutes of knee riding to become comfortable with throttle response, deceleration, and basic cornering. At this point, it is time to stand up. Remember, when you fall off, don't let go of the handlebars, just release the throttle.

If your ski is unable to provide enough thrust for you to accomplish the above, there is probably something wrong with it.
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Mcmarkrazz

Location
wisconsin
Thanks for input, I have no problem getting up,turning and was riding it np within 5 minutes the problem lies with lack of power. After cleaning and replacing a few basics I can dock start but it takes alot of balancing untill I plane.
Bottom line is yes it needs something else either a carb rebuild or prop issue cause compression is good and it runs better with the little adjustments I have done.
 
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