Need your opinion

Hello I am planing on purchasing a ski this summer and I have 2 routes I can take to achieve this. One would be to buy a new 2014 SJ for $6600 (I am assuming this is without tax and dealer fees). Or the other route I could take would be to buy a used ski for ~$4000 and ride that.

My overall plan is to get into freestyle. So possibly an aftermarket hull and adding more ponies in the motor department.

I guess what my major concern with buying a used ski would be how long the motor will last or how long before stuff starts to break or go bad. I understand things will wear on on the 2014 too but at least I will be able to perform preventative maintenance on the ski.

the used ski I am eyeing is:
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/boa/4963548530.html

Any input is greatly apprecited
 
I'd say for an extra 2600 get the ski that is 16 years newer. That ski looks a little beat to me for that price but i dont know what the market is for used skis out there. 6600 for a new 2014 is a steal. To be honest, i doubt it will last much longer at that price so if you are pretty sure thats the route you want to go you might want to commit soon. I paid 8k plus dealer fees and tax....Then again I'm an idiot who tends to make stupid impulse purchases lol
 

Half flip95

Formerly pondracer95
msrp on a 2000 superjet was 6,099.00
15 years later its worth 4,000.00 ~34% depreciation

msrp on a 2015 superjet is 8,499.00
You are getting it for 6,600.00 ~22% discount
If it holds its value as well as previous superjets and depreciates ~34% in 15 years. You would be able to sell it for 5,600.00 in 2030.
So basically you can rent a brand new superjet for 66.00 a year for the next 15 years.
Why wouldn't you do that?
 
^^ I read about that same type of response regarding the different reviews over the 96-07 SJ's compared to 08+. Based on what he has listed for parts, and what he shows in the photos I would say other than going to a single carb, bars and chin pad, and a few little external parts, it appears to be a relatively stock ski. I am currently going through the hull reinforcing ordeal and wet foam, I would think that if you could locate a round nose where the foam and glass work has already been done...and done rather well at that....you stand a far better chance of having a ski that will last you with all the common structural issues already corrected. It is nice to do all this work for the experience and what not but sometimes it's also nice to know all you need to do is top of the fuel and get ready to ride. Newer doesn't always mean better, but does always mean more expensive lol.
 

yamanube

This Is The Way
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Mandalor
The kind of person that puts a single Powerbomb on with stock exhaust is not likely the kind of person that can tune it correctly.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
Buy the best mechanical condition ski you can afford When entering the sport. If you dont have the knowhow to do a lot of work, you wont do a lot of riding. Speaking from experience.

To clarify, im not saying new or used. Just make sure you get something that isnt expected to break. If the used ski is mechnically rough, it might be best to keep looking.
 
Location
Iowa
If you're looking to go to an am hull at some point in the future I would try to find something used with performance mods already. I bought a relatively stock rn for 3k and in no time flat I had over 6k in it. If I had it to do over again I would've waited and found something that was already modded. Could've saved a couple grand.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
I had a similar experience. I bought a stock rn sj for $2800. Bought a new pipe, head, etc. I'm about $2000 in mods, engine rebuild, etc, so I have $5-6k in the ski that's worth about $4000.

On a contrary experience, I made a deal involving a trade on a full mod sxr that put the deal at about $4500. It already had pipe, pole, etc. however, it had am fuel lines that were rotten, a poorly laid out cooling system, a lot of rusty hardware,damaged air filter destroyed hood liner from a past dry pipe install, damaged steering bracket on the xmetal pole. I'm $1000 in repairs. I have $5500 in a ski worth about $4500.

It's all relative. Sometimes a good condition stocker you add parts to is a better deal than a modified piece of crap.

Both of those skis I currently own and are now in mechanically excellent condition, but I didn't save the money o thought I would buying something modified over a mint stocker.
 
Location
CT
Couldn't agree with Lumpy anymore. If you are just going to buy a ski to mod the hell out of it over the next few years then just jump to the finish line and get one that all the work is done to already. You will spend less money and less time wrenching. Not to say its not a fun process to buy new parts, wrench, and test them out. But i've seen guys buy brand new superjets for $7,000+ that are dogs compared to used modded ski's for half the price with much better power and handling. If you plan to mod a decent amount i say buy used, if you want to just ride a stocker around and be reliable then buy new. I also agree that the used one is a little over priced. GL! You are on the right track with a superjet
 
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