New rider with a couple questions

[cspaid]

Hello everyone. I have been lurking around this forum for a while. I bought a 2018 Superjet. I started modifing it starting with the 0* bars from blowsion. I am 6’4” and it’s seems I have to be hunched over to ride and I’m not sure if this is normal since I don’t know any better. I can stand straight up if I am all the way up in the tray- but my nose digs in. I am not porpoising either way so I know I have about weight forward. I’m going to try going back to the factory 7* bars to see if that helps it. Does anyone my size have any input. Thanks.

 

[Citizen]

Only 6' here, but shorter is almost always better for control and tricks. Chances are you just need more tray time to get used to it. On my superjet i cut off 6" of pole before i was happy with the ride. My pole is around -10" on my current ski.

 

[Quinc]

What he said^ You are going to want to cut at least 8+ inches out of your pole. Or buy an adjustable aftermarket pole and cut the tubes until you find a length that is comfortable.

 

[cspaid]

Ok thanks for that feedback. I guess I’ll keep it the way it is and just ride it more.

 

[cspaid]

Can someone point me in the direction of intake grate and ride plate installs for 08+ Superjets. I want to make sure I get it right.

 

[Citizen]

Worx 201 is the go to for intake for superjet i believe. Ride plate doesn't matter too much as you will want to D cut it regardless of which one it is. This is assuming you are a rec-rider and boat chaser, not a racer.

 

[Quinc]

I would wait until you have a few tanks of gas under your belt before making anymore changes. It will get easier each time you ride it.

 

[cspaid]

Worx 201 is the go to for intake for superjet i believe. Ride plate doesn't matter too much as you will want to D cut it regardless of which one it is. This is assuming you are a rec-rider and boat chaser, not a racer.

Yes just a rec rider. That is the one I have I just didn’t install it yet because I’m not 100% sure how to do it

 

[Citizen]

Kinda two schools of thought on the upgrades, Quinc has a good point, although personally I feel it's better to get the upgrades in place right away if you can, because most of them dramatically change the way the ski handles and you ride. Minds well get it where you want it, and then learn to ride it IMO. But either works.

As for the intake grate. Its 4 bolts. Pop it off and put new one on. May have to remove the ride plate first (been a long time since i worked on a superjet) but again, just 4 bolts. If you need to remove the ride plate just put a thin layer of silicone on the sealing edge to the ski to stop any air leaks.

 

[cspaid]

Kinda two schools of thought on the upgrades, Quinc has a good point, although personally I feel it's better to get the upgrades in place right away if you can, because most of them dramatically change the way the ski handles and you ride. Minds well get it where you want it, and then learn to ride it IMO. But either works.

As for the intake grate. Its 4 bolts. Pop it off and put new one on. May have to remove the ride plate first (been a long time since i worked on a superjet) but again, just 4 bolts. If you need to remove the ride plate just put a thin layer of silicone on the sealing edge to the ski to stop any air leaks.

What kind of silicone? Does it matter? Also a how to on the pole spring? Is it really easy as taking it out and putting the new one in? I think the pole spring will help my dilemma.

 

[Citizen]

I have always used either 100% silicone like you would buy at lowes, or sometimes gasket maker if that's all I had. All seemed to work just fine. Just want to make sure its sealed.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Just clear 100% Silicone or RTV. Either works. Before you start cutting your pole you need to decide what kind of riding you are going to do. You are already on a shorter pole than what came on the pre 2008 SJ's. But the downside is the steering cable and upper assembly of the pole limites the turning ratio of the steering. Do some searches, there are some ways to increase the steering ratio some. There use to be some mod kits where you swap out the steering cable and installed adapter to steering plate. Not up any more on the mods for the 08-18 models. Swapping to adjustible pole and new cable would work really well for getting your position dialed in. If your into doing rolls and such, shorter may be best, but if your just lake riding and cruising you may not want as short of a pole setup.

 

[cspaid]

Just clear 100% Silicone or RTV. Either works. Before you start cutting your pole you need to decide what kind of riding you are going to do. You are already on a shorter pole than what came on the pre 2008 SJ's. But the downside is the steering cable and upper assembly of the pole limites the turning ratio of the steering. Do some searches, there are some ways to increase the steering ratio some. There use to be some mod kits where you swap out the steering cable and installed adapter to steering plate. Not up any more on the mods for the 08-18 models. Swapping to adjustible pole and new cable would work really well for getting your position dialed in. If your into doing rolls and such, shorter may be best, but if your just lake riding and cruising you may not want as short of a pole setup.

Thank you. I wasn’t going to start messing with pole size until I got more time in and see what I get into. I’d like to do freestyle stunts in the future.

 

[OCD Solutions]

That's the beauty of an adjustable pole, you can try it at multiple lengths before you really have to make any hard decisions. The hardest decision will be to part with the money for it.

 

[Citizen]

What kind of silicone? Does it matter? Also a how to on the pole spring? Is it really easy as taking it out and putting the new one in? I think the pole spring will help my dilemma.

Missed the pole spring question. In theory it is as easy as swapping the new one for the old, in practice they are a bit of a bitch to get on and in place. Helps to have an extra pair of hands so find a buddy and feed him a few beers. Upgraded pole spring is a huge QoL upgrade, but I am not sure it is going to do anything for your current issues. Just makes riding much more enjoyable and less tiring. Personally I think it's a must have upgrade for how little it costs.

 

[cspaid]

Alright thanks hopefully it won’t be too bad.

 

[Big Kahuna]

Missed the pole spring question. In theory it is as easy as swapping the new one for the old, in practice they are a bit of a bitch to get on and in place. Helps to have an extra pair of hands so find a buddy and feed him a few beers. Upgraded pole spring is a huge QoL upgrade, but I am not sure it is going to do anything for your current issues. Just makes riding much more enjoyable and less tiring. Personally I think it's a must have upgrade for how little it costs.

I remember installing an AC pole on my 97 SJ once, it took me standing on top of the ski, with my buddy and my wife both helping to get the pole lined up, twisted just right to be able to get the pole bolt through and spring lined up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a MF'r........... But this was not a stock pole!!!!!!!

 

[Citizen]

I remember installing an AC pole on my 97 SJ once, it took me standing on top of the ski, with my buddy and my wife both helping to get the pole lined up, twisted just right to be able to get the pole bolt through and spring lined up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a MF'r........... But this was not a stock pole!!!!!!!

Have installed more than a few myself and they were always a bitch haha! Worst one by far though was putting on on my superfreak that was not setup to even have a pole spring. Fun times!

 

[CD155MX]

my superfreak that was not setup to even have a pole spring. Fun times!

Got any pics of that?

 

[Citizen]

Got any pics of that?

Shoot me a PM so we don't derail the thread, ill take some today or tomorrow for ya