Off idle bog. Case epoxy air leak.

I have an off idle bog when on the water. Have done a leak down test and I have a leak where the case has been epoxied for porting. Just wondering if that might be causing it.
Engine has been professionally built. Did have a backfire issue which has been resolved.
 
If u tested for an air leak and it leaked air then you definitely have an air leak. My advice is to fix the leak before anything else. Air leaks in two strokes (as you probably know) will make you go nuts. So start there.
 
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Seal the leak and make the idle mixture richer. You may need a larger pilot as well. Twostrokes need richer than ideal mixtures for good throttle response.
 
Well we roll with 650 701 yamis; 440 to 800 kawis,.....and hell thats generous.

Now you have an air leak not sure what the poop you want us to say.........other than....fix the leak?
 
Well we roll with 650 701 yamis; 440 to 800 kawis,.....and hell thats generous.

Now you have an air leak not sure what the poop you want us to say.........other than....fix the leaki
 
Well we roll with 650 701 yamis; 440 to 800 kawis,.....and hell thats generous.

Now you have an air leak not sure what the poop you want us to say.........other than....fix the leaki
Not sure why you posted again or what the hell your on about mate. Sounds like your a few cans in.
Was hoping for something constructive like "if you lose a psi a minute you should be ok" and save me a few hours work.
If you know what you're actually talking about.
I guess its easier to be a smart ass and try to look cool on the forum.
 
When did the bog start? Is this a new issue or what?

Off idle bog, I would start with richer pilot.

Your leak down test should be 10psi for 10 mins. Any loss over 10% I would look at. 30psi is too high.
 
When did the bog start? Is this a new issue or what?

Off idle bog, I would start with richer pilot.

Your leak down test should be 10psi for 10 mins. Any loss over 10% I would look at. 30psi is too high.
The previous seller sold me a bit of a lemon so not sure when it started
The epoxy looks legit and the engine builder that built it is top notch so im guessing it ran properly at some stage.
Could the backfiring have damaged anything else to cause it?
Its a 950 dasa with 48mm carbs.
Any chance i can silicone around the epoxy to stop the leak? Im guessing its all vacuum in the crank?? Not sure the the silicone would hold 10psi in another leakdown test.
Otherwise i was going to grind some epoxy out and fill with glex.
 
There are 2 types of test. Pressure. And vacuum. Because engines see both. And seals have 2 sides.


Alot of people would say the crank seal only sees pressure. Why when the seal goes out it pushes oil into the cover. And never pulls leaked water into the engine. But to each their own.

30 psi is way too much. I'd be willing to bet you did the damage.

Either way. Get it fixed. 10 psi with no drop at all. Ever.

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I would leak down test again at 10psi and see if it holds still.

If it doesn't you are best just to fix the problem and then start again with the tuning.
 
Not sure why you posted again or what the hell your on about mate. Sounds like your a few cans in.
Was hoping for something constructive like "if you lose a psi a minute you should be ok" and save me a few hours work.
If you know what you're actually talking about.
I guess its easier to be a smart ass and try to look cool on the forum.
Internet issues are the reason for the double up. I do apologize for being an ass and there's no excuse for that, seriously. I type like I talk and the words don't always match my ugly ass goofy mug.

For what its worth read groupk's article on air leaks. They want 6 to 9 psi held for 8 to 10 minutes. I've tested motors that don't lose a pound of pressure and others have lost most after 10 minutes. My biggest headache was a 1 cylinder 300sx motor that leaked more air than I thought possible.

30 psi is ridiculous, pump up a crank case to that and something is getting damaged. You want to test operating conditions not brute force torcher testing.

And just to add to what sparkplug said, you would think if something holds pressure it would hold a vacuum but thats just not true. Direction of mechanical forces make a huge difference. Not that it matters for our purpose here but I operate machines for a living that can hold pressure (15k to 25kpsi ) but the job gets stopped because it can't hold a 3 torr vacuum for 10 minutes and the reason is the mechanical and wearable seals fail when pushed the opposite way.
 
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