Overal OPV Steering

[Mcarp6]

Has anyone tried or heard any reviews on this steering ?

http://www.elprofessor.fr/index.php?id_product=2244&controller=product&id_lang=2




I ordered a Thrust Steering Through HOT PRODUCTS 4 weeks ago and about 2 weeks ago I found it was on Backorder and they charged me already for something they don't know if they're even going to get . A little ticked off, however there is not anything I can do nor a timeline when they will be back in stock.


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[Ducky]

There is a review thread on it, and I believe like it. If you ride salt, I would look at the new JetWorks over the pivot system or the JettLabs Over the pivot. Both utilize OEM bushings instead of bears, and both are super super solid and smooth. I own the jetworks, and tested out the jettlabs system.

http://jetworksperformance.com/?p=879

 

[Mcarp6]

There is a review thread on it, and I believe like it. If you ride salt, I would look at the new JetWorks over the pivot system or the JettLabs Over the pivot. Both utilize OEM bushings instead of bears, and both are super super solid and smooth. I own the jetworks, and tested out the jettlabs system.

http://jetworksperformance.com/?p=879

Good stuff Matt , I like this! Is there a review on the jetworks ? For $200 it seems like a steal. My bearings are def beat on the rrp or I have some type of water intrusion, the ski isn't even fun to ride anymore.


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[Ducky]

Good stuff Matt , I like this! Is there a review on the jetworks ? For $200 it seems like a steal. My bearings are def beat on the rrp or I have some type of water intrusion, the ski isn't even fun to ride anymore.


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Yea, ive ridden with it a bunch and it is very, very nice. OVP is sweet. The bushings are smooth and tight. Its definitely a winner in my book.

 

[Mcarp6]

Yea, ive ridden with it a bunch and it is very, very nice. OVP is sweet. The bushings are smooth and tight. Its definitely a winner in my book.

Matt you have owned the thrust steer also correct ? I know that thrust steer is probably the smoothest on the market I have felt personally. Would you say this is equal or somewhat equal.


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[restosud]

the overall is butter smooth with no play that plagues other systems out there.all stainless,seals and anodized aluminum.comparable to the wdk in strenght but with ovp mounting.get it,you won't regret it.

 

[Roseand]

Matt you have owned the thrust steer also correct ? I know that thrust steer is probably the smoothest on the market I have felt personally. Would you say this is equal or somewhat equal.


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He sold his thrust to go OVP and he said he'd never go back lol

 

[Roseand]

the overall is butter smooth with no play that plagues other systems out there.all stainless,seals and anodized aluminum.comparable to the wdk in strenght but with ovp mounting.get it,you won't regret it.

I believe it. Except it's way over engineered for what you need. Keep it simple with a bushing setup!!!

 

[restosud]

a bushing setup is nice but in no way can it compete with a well designed bearing system such as the overall ovp.
bushings by design need a bit of play.a lot of grease can mitigate the feel but that only lasts so long.

 

[Ducky]

a bushing setup is nice but in no way can it compete with a well designed bearing system such as the overall ovp.
bushings by design need a bit of play.a lot of grease can mitigate the feel but that only lasts so long.

There was 0 play in both the JetWorks over the pivot (which I own) and the JettLabs over the pivot. I mean ZERO play. My thrust system had a crazy amount of play. Ill stick with the bushings.

 

[Roseand]

A little play isn't even noticeable when riding and doesn't really create any problems. I will admit, the Blowsion bearing setup I had before was absolutely flawless and the machine work was absolutely phenomenal. Never had any issues with it and it was buttery smooth. The jetworks ovp bushing setup works excellent but has a different smooth feel. On the trailer a bearing setup feels nicer, but when riding I don't notice a difference. No slop is no slop(and there isn't any play with a properly setup bushing system) , and you don't worry much about smoothness when you're riding hard. As long as it moves smoothly that's what matters. And the bushing ovp setup moves very smoothly and works amazing. If I switched to overall or the Blowsion ovp setup that's coming out, it would be purely for luxury.

 

[tightithrash]

Go with the company that designed it and make it in the usa aka Blowsion

 

[Mcarp6]

Go with the company that designed it and make it in the usa aka Blowsion

I do not have a Blowsion pole. RRP here.


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[Mcarp6]

A little play isn't even noticeable when riding and doesn't really create any problems. I will admit, the Blowsion bearing setup I had before was absolutely flawless and the machine work was absolutely phenomenal. Never had any issues with it and it was buttery smooth. The jetworks ovp bushing setup works excellent but has a different smooth feel. On the trailer a bearing setup feels nicer, but when riding I don't notice a difference. No slop is no slop(and there isn't any play with a properly setup bushing system) , and you don't worry much about smoothness when you're riding hard. As long as it moves smoothly that's what matters. And the bushing ovp setup moves very smoothly and works amazing. If I switched to overall or the Blowsion ovp setup that's coming out, it would be purely for luxury.

Explain a different type of smooth feel with the jetworks. Right now I am riding with my rrp with what I am guessing beat bearings. I have to literally muscle it to have the boat do what I want , so any change to something smooth will take some time to get used to and probably feel out of ordinary for me.


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[Ducky]

FYI, I had already bought the JetWorks over the pivot before I got the chance to test out the JettLabs over the pivot. If I hadnt already bought the JetWorks setup, I would have done with the JettLabs setup. Plus I like the fact that it is locally made

 

[Scorn800]

Someone needs to make OVP steering to accept 7/8 bars. I really like my 4degree bars with crossbar pad.

 

[yamanube]

Am I the only person that feels the OVP steering systems were an answer to a question nobody was asking? I understand the argument for the design, but I don't notice any negative effect of having my bars back a couple inches. Most bicycles do not have the bars directly over the pivot, many dirtbikes do not either. This is more of a rhetorical question, continue on with your discussion.

 

[Ducky]

Am I the only person that feels the OVP steering systems were an answer to a question nobody was asking? I understand the argument for the design, but I don't notice any negative effect of having my bars back a couple inches. Most bicycles do not have the bars directly over the pivot, many dirtbikes do not either. This is more of a rhetorical question, continue on with your discussion.

I like it for the fact that on super short hulls, you can take the steering in a couple inches and leave a little bit of pole tube exposed on the RRP poles so it still looks like an actual handlepole lol.

 

[whitca]

IMO- OVP isn't an end all/cure all steering. Is there a difference between running a standard turnplate steering--the answers yes, but that wasn't the reason I went OVP. I wanted to run a bushing setup after many years of fighting bearings and o rings in other systems and Jetworks new setup fit the bill. I had witnessed on more than one occasion broken steering studs on another bushing system (not OVP) and the timing couldn't have been better on Art's release of the CSS. After running the steering for a few months now, I love it. The response is certainly quicker than what I was used to running a shortened turnplate. Zack's analogy of the steering being similar to bars on a BMX bike is spot on. With any OVP system, as soon as you turn your head to start looking for the next wave, bouy, etc, your shoulders have already begun to follow and the turn has been initiated. This is done with zero thought, its just as soon as you begin to turn your head, the boat turns, plain and simple.
The lack of turnplate definitely gets you even closer to the bars. I have my risers swept back just a hair and I'm still positioned further up over the chin pad than I was before. This would be my only concern with the Jettlabs setup as it has the extension to move the bars back to the rider (not knocking it, only an observation). On a short pole ski where you're nowhere near the bars it's probably fine, but on a surf setup such as mine the pole is longer and I'm positioned more with my hips/thigh in the bars and that would be in my way (and definitely need padded).

 

[Roseand]

No, OVP isn't necessary. But I bought a shortened pole and I didn't want to shorten it again, so the OVP made up for the longer pole length.