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E350

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Understood. Excellent design and excellent execution of that design to create the item, to excellent installation of that item on the ski as shown.

Brilliance is not stupid bs. Brilliance is just Brilliant. You have shown your homework. So, you are Simply Brilliant buddy. I.e., SB not BS. Period.
 

E350

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I have some questions, but if it is not appropriate for me to ask them in this beautiful thread, just let me know and I will start another thread and ask you the questions there.

1. Do you have a link for ordering Rotaloc bonding inserts? I can't find a dealer/ distributer on the web and it seems that neither Amazon nor ebay have them.

(I want six each Open Base F1-RB38 Metric in 10mm-1.5, 8mm-1.25 in Stainless
and six each Open Base F1-RB23 Metric in 5mm-0.8 and 6mm-1.0 in Stainless)

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2. I weld steel poorly. And I always figured that I would move on to welding aluminum poorly. But maybe I should move on to welding stainless steel poorly first. What are you using to weld your stainless?
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Update: Sanoman, I typed in "Rotaloc" in McMaster-Carr and it came up with nothing. I did find generic "Adhesive Nuts" but it did not state whether they were open base or closed base.
 
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I have some questions, but if it is not appropriate for me to ask them in this beautiful thread, just let me know and I will start another thread and ask you the questions there.

1. Do you have a link for ordering Rotaloc bonding inserts? I can't find a dealer/ distributer on the web and it seems that neither Amazon nor ebay have them.

(I want six each Open Base F1-RB38 Metric in 10mm-1.5, 8mm-1.25 in Stainless
and six each Open Base F1-RB23 Metric in 5mm-0.8 and 6mm-1.0 in Stainless)

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2. I weld steel poorly. And I always figured that I would move on to welding aluminum poorly. But maybe I should move on to welding stainless steel poorly first. What are you using to weld your stainless?
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Update: Sanoman, I typed in "Rotaloc" in McMaster-Carr and it came up with nothing. I did find generic "Adhesive Nuts" but it did not state whether they were open base or closed base.
Like Don said , Mcmaster. You can't look for brand names though, you have to search based on what it is you're after. Adhesive nuts should get you there. Make sure you get to stainless, they have both. As far as welding, everything I've made that I've posted was stick welded. Stick is Quick ! I did have my buddy Flash weld the cart interface of my carrier though. It was a lot of thin wall and my machine doesn't have the greatest duty cycle. Sometimes you have to know when not to do a job.
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SXIPro

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I have some questions, but if it is not appropriate for me to ask them in this beautiful thread, just let me know and I will start another thread and ask you the questions there.

1. Do you have a link for ordering Rotaloc bonding inserts? I can't find a dealer/ distributer on the web and it seems that neither Amazon nor ebay have them.

(I want six each Open Base F1-RB38 Metric in 10mm-1.5, 8mm-1.25 in Stainless
and six each Open Base F1-RB23 Metric in 5mm-0.8 and 6mm-1.0 in Stainless)

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2. I weld steel poorly. And I always figured that I would move on to welding aluminum poorly. But maybe I should move on to welding stainless steel poorly first. What are you using to weld your stainless?
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Update: Sanoman, I typed in "Rotaloc" in McMaster-Carr and it came up with nothing. I did find generic "Adhesive Nuts" but it did not state whether they were open base or closed base.
Doesn't JetManiac sell those weird nut doodads as UFO Mounts?
 

E350

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Holy crap! You are doing all your welding with stick? I have an older Miller Thunderbolt and half the time I stick the stick rather than start the arc. You skills are simply incredible. When I get time I will spend some butt time practicing. I didn't even know I could weld stainless with it. Thank you for detailing your work. I never took shop, so your thread is my shop class. It is encouraging to see someone set the quality standard so high and then show that it can actually be achieved.

Thanks to everyone, I am looking for Rotaloc again now.
 

SXIPro

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Holy crap! You are doing all your welding with stick? I have an older Miller Thunderbolt and half the time I stick the stick rather than start the arc. You skills are simply incredible. When I get time I will spend some butt time practicing. I didn't even know I could weld stainless with it. Thank you for detailing your work. I never took shop, so your thread is my shop class. It is encouraging to see someone set the quality standard so high and then show that it can actually be achieved.

Thanks to everyone, I am looking for Rotaloc again now.
See Ducky's post just before yours.
 
Holy crap! You are doing all your welding with stick? I have an older Miller Thunderbolt and half the time I stick the stick rather than start the arc. You skills are simply incredible. When I get time I will spend some butt time practicing. I didn't even know I could weld stainless with it. Thank you for detailing your work. I never took shop, so your thread is my shop class. It is encouraging to see someone set the quality standard so high and then show that it can actually be achieved.

Thanks to everyone, I am looking for Rotaloc again now.
Oh yeah. You'd be amazed at what can be done with stick. I'm no welder but am fortune enough to know guys that are friggin artists, they can point you in the right direction but it's all about stick time. Believe me , I've stuck my share of electrodes.
 

E350

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What type of epoxy do you recommend for the Rotaloc adhesive inserts? I bought the Rotalocs from McMaster-Carr and I am stoked to fabricate my dish-washer epoxy molds.

I am installing Tom21 sponsons on my FX-1. I am using the stainless bolts he supplied which are called Hurricane (Sidewalk) bolts with the Rotalocs. Really wide double (cross) slotted head.

Update: So, far my questions have been somewhat related to aspects of Mikesx's thread, but I don't want to divert it further, so I will start a separate thread re my installation of Tom21's bolt-on sponsons when I get all the stuff ready to do it. But just to respond to Ducky and Mikesx, my inserts will actually be used with holes in the hull. I will be aligning Tom's sponsons, drilling holes through the hull, installing the Rotaloc inerts inside the hull and then bolting on the sponsons from the outside. That way if I want to take the sponsons off I can, and then just thread in shorter sidewalk or other low profile bolts from the outside or even a set screw from the inside to fill up the holes through the hull.
 
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What type of epoxy do you recommend for the Rotaloc adhesive inserts? I bought the Rotalocs from McMaster-Carr and I am stoked to fabricate my dish-washer epoxy molds.

I am installing Tom21 sponsons on my FX-1. I am using the stainless bolts he supplied which are called Hurricane (Sidewalk) bolts with the Rotalocs. Really wide double (cross) slotted head.
I use US Composites 3:1 with West 404 mixed to a peanut butter consistency for bonding metal to glass or carbon. US Comp 3:1 works great for laminating, bonding. Works well with additives based on the job your doing. I also like US Composites for one stop shopping.
 

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What type of epoxy do you recommend for the Rotaloc adhesive inserts? I bought the Rotalocs from McMaster-Carr and I am stoked to fabricate my dish-washer epoxy molds.

I am installing Tom21 sponsons on my FX-1. I am using the stainless bolts he supplied which are called Hurricane (Sidewalk) bolts with the Rotalocs. Really wide double (cross) slotted head.

I always just use Gflex Thickened Epoxy, and have never had a mount failure. I like Gflex because its super simple. When you install them, take your bolt, and coat it with something like candle wax, and thread it almost to the bottom. This will keep your threaded hole from being filled with epoxy and the wax will keep the epoxy from bonding to the bolt. One very, very important thing to consider when using these mounts, or really any aftermarket/homemade mount, is using the correct length bolt. If its too long, itll start penetrating the hull, and could cause the mount to rip off.
 
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