Christian_83
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Pitch Components - Prepreg carbon parts :)
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I love this trim but how in the world did they not make an upswept 5 degree option?? Like literally every nozzle that's used on any scream hull uses that. It was for that reason alone I didn't get one. ...And that the nozzle size starts at 90mm. What does anyone with a sub 900cc engine do? Let's me know their composites knowledge is spot on, but freestyle ski build knowledge needs to hit the books. Otherwise that thing is a picasso.
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Couldn't agree more. I was ready to pre order until I asked the same question, if it had an upsweep nozzle. Sure you can pre load trim with the adjustable stop but that cuts into the trim. It seems other setups like some hurricane and tiger craft also like the upsweep nozzle as well. I would definitely buy one if this was an option. It would also be nice to see a smaller bore size option on the reduction like you mentioned.
Christian_83
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Hi Zack thanks for you comment.
Well there is a reason for it.
1. they make a exit nozzle ring at 89mm now
2. regarding static -5deg exit nozzle, i talked to the guys at Pitch about it when designing. A few things to factor in:
Not everybody wants a -5deg.
The trim comes out of the box being able to trim true 33degrees (not mods needed). this way you can set your static trim, with the trimring/steering nozzle stop.
The cost to make the exit nozzle -5deg static, will be higher. (straight nozzle can get most work on CNC lathe, with -5deg you cant)
So at some point if the trim system price should be competitive, you would would have to draw a line somewere, it was performance with interchangeable rings in both steering and exit nozzle that was put first
With all that being said, if the demand is there - anything is possible, -5 deg static in: Exit nozzle, steering nozzle or steering nozzle ring. the possibilities is there.
Well there is a reason for it.
1. they make a exit nozzle ring at 89mm now
2. regarding static -5deg exit nozzle, i talked to the guys at Pitch about it when designing. A few things to factor in:
Not everybody wants a -5deg.
The trim comes out of the box being able to trim true 33degrees (not mods needed). this way you can set your static trim, with the trimring/steering nozzle stop.
The cost to make the exit nozzle -5deg static, will be higher. (straight nozzle can get most work on CNC lathe, with -5deg you cant)
So at some point if the trim system price should be competitive, you would would have to draw a line somewere, it was performance with interchangeable rings in both steering and exit nozzle that was put first
With all that being said, if the demand is there - anything is possible, -5 deg static in: Exit nozzle, steering nozzle or steering nozzle ring. the possibilities is there.
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Quinc
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Y On the other hand, i havent seen that quality in carbon jetski parts before - nor innovation
But stay tuned for the finished product and keep checking in - I know they have more parts on the computer allready
You must not have seen @Nate_D parts and pole that came out 4 or 5 years ago. carbon and titanium weighed in around 7lbs.
Polar composites does/did some amazing carbon work as well. Here is there adjustable pole from 3-4 years ago. I think it was around 6lbs:
Christian_83
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Quinc
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Agreed.
With all these carbon parts are you able to get your ski under 175lbs ready to ride yet?!
Christian_83
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Agreed.
With all these carbon parts are you able to get your ski under 175lbs ready to ride yet?!
Haha no i dont think so
I'm over here quietly taking a mental note to use a 5 degree nozzle on the DVX I'm building. Weird how you stumble onto little bits of info.
Christian_83
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To be fair, its a rider preference. just like rideplate length.
Ideally you should try both for yourself and see which you liker better
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Just an fyi all scream billet trims are 5 degree and and all Phil's with the billet nozzles are 5 degree. It depends a lot on your hull. If u run a longer one dvx, helium, x1 they like the upswept, if a circus or Richter style a straight can be better. It also can depend on your weight. If you're over 200 u MIGHT prefer straight. And I say might because a lot of buddies I ride with over 200 still prefer the upswept. I rode a dvx with a straight and let's just say it was quickly apparent why scream made their billet trim and all the old style welded up nozzles 5 degree.
I'm pretty far north of 200 and have tried both on my dvx. I do not like how the hull handles with a straight nozzle. I have also tried longer ride plates with both the straight and upswept nozzle and I'm back to upsweep and flush rideplate.
We tried an upsweep on rickter and it was too much static trim, ended up going with the straight. Both hurricane and circus we have had in our group had the upsweep.
I'm not sure how a machined billet shim in between the pump and reduction would work but if it did work well it would be a great idea.
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We tried an upsweep on rickter and it was too much static trim, ended up going with the straight. Both hurricane and circus we have had in our group had the upsweep.
I'm not sure how a machined billet shim in between the pump and reduction would work but if it did work well it would be a great idea.
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The part I see playing out here is Tuners, dont readily share Info with the guys that build the parts,
When I say tuners, this is multi level. Not only do they need to make the motor work perfect, they also need to understand how to balance the boat, and tune the pump. That said, only a small handful of these guys actively ride!
Most riders, are still learning to ride, and evolve their tricks. Most dont have a clue to tell a tuner what they need? Hell, they dont know themselves! All this said, look to the builders / Designers / manufacturers that are very active in every element of the sport , to back you up! All the rest are just guessing!
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When I say tuners, this is multi level. Not only do they need to make the motor work perfect, they also need to understand how to balance the boat, and tune the pump. That said, only a small handful of these guys actively ride!
Most riders, are still learning to ride, and evolve their tricks. Most dont have a clue to tell a tuner what they need? Hell, they dont know themselves! All this said, look to the builders / Designers / manufacturers that are very active in every element of the sport , to back you up! All the rest are just guessing!
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Christian_83
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So finally the Pitch Components trim arrived.
Just a work of art!
ive been out doing one test ride, and its amazing. performance is awesome. Cant wait to go out again.
Just a work of art!
ive been out doing one test ride, and its amazing. performance is awesome. Cant wait to go out again.
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I'd love to know how that intake grate is laid up and how carbon ride plate can be that cheap. Mostly the intake. Layups like that are something I don't yet understand how to do.
Christian_83
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What rideplate?
You can write to them on IG or FB - i dont know if they want to disclosure full details on layup and methods of products