Surfriding Polaris Octane Vs. Watercraft Factory Vision 1.0

Wolf Child

Wolf Child

Just Another Octard
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I love my octane more than any ski I have ever ridden. but I have been with out it all summer and have had plenty of time to get used to the WCF vision that I hijacked from the WCF shop when I dropped off my two octanes for some much needed overhauls.

so today for the first time I got to rip them around side by side. to say they are night an day is probably the biggest understatement you could possible make in a comaparison of these two skis. where the Vision has tons of power trying to rip itself from your grip, the octane has slightly less, but is more manageable since the hit isnt till mid range. where the Vision is scalpel sharp in the corners and and sticks hard in a turn, the Octane is capable of controlled slides and does so effortlessly. think of it as drifting on a jet ski. all you need to do is give it more throttle and the drift is over and she roars to life and takes off like a cruise missile. the Octane loves to run WOT and as quite stable at speed, the vision...can get a little squirrely. (to me) the Octane is balanced and flies through the air and over the water effortlessly. the vision, just seems to me requires a little more work.

now... the real question, what does all this mean?

well there is no better way to break it down that to just quote my oldest son who's Octane Steve still has and is working on. " I think I'd rather just have another vision".

the vision is lighter, more powerful, has more potential, (because it's SJ based) there are more upgrade options out there, and in my son's opinion, it's easier to "do tricks" on. is he right? maybe.

The octane is more stable at all speeds, better ballanced and IMHO, more controllable and manageable. Am I right? also a resounding maybe.

These are our opinions based on the side by side comparison of our most beloved ski and the new kid in the garage. the verdict is plane to see. the kids ski is going to finish being overhaled and will either be sold or relegated to back-up or parts status. Steve has already been informed that a second vision may be in the future. we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Billybo455

Billybo455

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Central FL
i'm pretty sure the octane prolly weighs another 80lbs on the vision. so it's not really a fair comparison. not to mention it's an eight year old ski vs a new custom aftermarket ski. you want a fair comparison put the vision up against my superfreak with the 1200 and see which one is lighter, more stable, and more powerful. just saying apples to oranges.
 
waterfreak

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Billybo455 said:
i'm pretty sure the octane prolly weighs another 80lbs on the vision. so it's not really a fair comparison. not to mention it's an eight year old ski vs a new custom aftermarket ski. you want a fair comparison put the vision up against my superfreak with the 1200 and see which one is lighter, more stable, and more powerful. just saying apples to oranges.
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than you have to put a 1200 in the vision as well and then you can compare apples to apples. Maybe it would be more comparable to my new 1000cc vision I just built!
 
Billybo455

Billybo455

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Central FL
i was just saying the comparison isn't a real one. i like to ride all skis and i still hop on a 440 we have sitting around. although we did get my last carbon freak to 61..... :)
 
Wolf Child

Wolf Child

Just Another Octard
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All over C. FL
Billybo455 said:
i'm pretty sure the octane prolly weighs another 80lbs on the vision. so it's not really a fair comparison. not to mention it's an eight year old ski vs a new custom aftermarket ski. you want a fair comparison put the vision up against my superfreak with the 1200 and see which one is lighter, more stable, and more powerful. just saying apples to oranges.
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I'm pretty sure I stated the two were completely different. a few people around CFL have ridden both of my skis, just never side by side. Everyone knows how I feel about my Polaris. so to say that I actually think the vision has the upper hand ( to the people that know me ) really does mean something.
 
feartheride

feartheride

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Billybo455 said:
i'm pretty sure the octane prolly weighs another 80lbs on the vision. so it's not really a fair comparison. not to mention it's an eight year old ski vs a new custom aftermarket ski. you want a fair comparison put the vision up against my superfreak with the 1200 and see which one is lighter, more stable, and more powerful. just saying apples to oranges.
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So don't be such a douche
 
Billybo455

Billybo455

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Central FL
that's what a forum is here for. for me to be a douche. thank you sir.

i also own an octane. 2003 with a powervalve 800cc with the octane dry pipe. after owning it for 2 years and a superfreak for a year not once has it come into my head to compare my octane to it. the hull cost more then my whole octane! take this how you want to. i think you like what you have and tout it as the supreme product. i've read your posts for a long time now and i've met you in person. i'm not trying to offend you, you have octanes. i have one. you have a ktm. i have ktms. are tastes are somewhat similar. just saying this isn't a fair comparison.
 
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LeftysRule22

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Austin, Tx
Sure, its comparing apples to oranges. The point is how much that orange is like the apple, which is perfectly fair. Yes, we know the vision has the clear advantage - but how close is the octane? Based on this review we can determine value. If the vision is twice the cost, does it perform twice as good? Obviously not, as nothing like that is a linear scale - but its still good information from which we can draw our own conclusions.


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Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna

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Octane was designed as a Race Ski. The first few years it was sold, they were suppose to only be sold to people who raced. As in, they had an IJSBA Card stating they were racers. Only bad thing about the octane is the bottom is not the same as the one Wamilton designed. they made some changes that made it more difficult to turn. Hence the reason they changed the bond rail at the rear after the first season. They could not retool the molds so they went with a bandaid fix, even to the point that they provided a template for dealers to alter the first year hull (03?) in the rear. Basically a piece of pipe that was used as a template to cut out and allow the water to flow and loosen up the rear ( The rear corners acted as a skeg, when the hull leaned over, it would catch and actually force the ski upright. By cutting this out, it took that away and let the ski lean over more).

That said, glad you like your Vision.

This is kind of like having a SJ and and SXR. SJ for play and SXR for ripping up the lake.
 
Billybo455

Billybo455

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Central FL
Wolf Child said:
now now don't try to get into a pissing match with me over who has more toys I'm pretty sure I win
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i was originally going to say you were one of those guys that has something to prove. thanks for clarifying that :p so this thread was just like other threads where people asked for an opinion on a specific ski and you'd chime in with a pic of your all wonderful vision even though no one wanted that particular input.

i do love the assumption of you so kindly stated out above. good luck with that.
 
Wolf Child

Wolf Child

Just Another Octard
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All over C. FL
tzane said:
what do you expect people to think of you when you make a statement like this? ill give you the benefit of thou doubt thou, you have a hand full of toys.
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lol. I just like to throw rocks at the proverbial honests nest. it keeps me entertained. to be honest, I really could gve a damn if anyone cares what I say/think. I just get bored and like to hear myself...type. ;-)
 
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