question on barrel rolls and flips

[foxloat]

i just wanted to know how many people have both feet in the back when they do barrel rolls and flips.

and how many people have one foot in back using a foothold and then have the other foot in front using a foot strap?

- also what do you think of the rev footholds with enclosure. I'm thinking of using the rev footholds and then have a foot strap upfront.

 

[munki63]

I've got the rev holds with out enclosure I ordered with but never used em, but I like my revs

 

[Tanman]

I really think a front foot hold is necesary, pancake pete makes some sleek ones, i love mine, but have never ridden with a foot strap either. It is never in the way and always there to jam your foot into. Id go FFH and then rears

 

[jhall752]

i do everything in surf stance... i just feel more comfortable but your rotations are slower... as of right now i am running a foot strap in the front just because im cheap and it was easy

 

[stanton]

foot straps 100% of the time.

 

[227]

Every body does it differently, theres no right or wrong way its personal preference. IMO surf stance in straps looks the coolest but I hate straps and I actually hate single place footholds also. I have full length tray footholds because I like to move my feet around, its just personal preference

 

[Mark Gomez]

i just wanted to know how many people have both feet in the back when they do barrel rolls and flips.

and how many people have one foot in back using a foothold and then have the other foot in front using a foot strap?

- also what do you think of the rev footholds with enclosure. I'm thinking of using the rev footholds and then have a foot strap upfront.

I wont tell you anything about rev footholds because i haven't used them but i can tell you my experience from what works for me. I use Wamiltons Rickter footholds and a Tomski front foothold. I am in love with this set up because I have the security of footholds for technical quick tricks that need them yet i can also quickly rotate my right foot 90 degrees using my rear right foothold as a toed in foot strap with my left foot toed into my front foothold for surf stance. both offering a good hold yet flexibility and room for last minute stance adjustments or weight distribution.
For now Ive flipped in footholds because its a discipline sort of thing of getting my weight back and secure for the trick.

I wouldn't feel like you could get the same results with enclosure footholds IMO.

going from what i just mentioned:

For rolls to my left I use footholds because that is
A. most comfortable for that roll, left side surf stance rolls always feel wrong to me like im holding onto the ski through the roll.
B. I can whip a foothold roll super quick in small surf/ wake because of the low center of gravity I can get in foothold stance. and or stand up through out the roll and slow it down super slow if i go really big and i know i need to make it.

For rolls to my right I am in surf stance with my set up listed above.
I utilize surf stance for much larger waves or steeper faced conditions. I have been slowly learning how to whip surf stance rolls around on smaller surf so my outlook here may change soon but for now surf stance offers a great stylish roll and flip. it can be timed better in such a stance last minute and also is a much less aggressive way to land than having your feet together.

 

[Waternut]

I had the REV footholds and originally thought they were great but over time I began to really hate them. Even with padding, they put a nasty pressure point on the top of my foot that would be begin to really hurt after a few hours so of course the next day was worse.

I've never been able to do anything with a front footholds/front strap except bash the pole on my knee which hurts like a MF-er. Maybe if you're shorter, there is less of a chance of knee bashing. Either way, I can control the ski better with a foot in front at high speeds but at low speeds, I can whip the ski around like it's nothing with both feet in the back since it's easier to rock the ski back and pivot it on the tail instead of actually turning. When jumping a wake with a front foothold, I have no control over how the ski reacts though and usually end up going in the water at a very steep angle and then have trouble recovering. When I'm in the back holds and jumping a wake, my hands control the nose and my feet control the rear.

It's obviously all preference so you need to learn what works for you but these are my concerns.