Custom/Hybrid Questions on building a Rickter

Lumberjack

Lumberjack

Location
Saskatchewan
wheelman1976 said:
So your evo just has a superjet motor in it with a pipe and that's it? Do you feel that's enough to get up and go?
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Enough for my skill level! Just a complete 701 drivetrain and pump. Sure everyone always wants more power and it never ends regardless of what you own cars sleds etc but the 701 in any rickter is a blast!

I love having a full size fuel tank, chase boats, hop cabin to cabin, cruising the lake/river , hit my own setup wake with some mellow freestyle stabs, spins easily all day without refueling. The ski is stable enough you can be lazy and ride it almost as easily as an SJ. I suggest an edge or fs2/fr2 evo for your style of rising. My fs2 evo is so stable I can stand on it at an idle and I'm about 170 pounds 6 foot.

No its not going to flatwater flip but its more than enough to get you into some trouble slamming off your own wake with trim. I've only been riding 3 summers but come from a sledding background
 
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wheelman1976

Location
michigan
So I've been thinking more about this and I think financially it might make more sense for me to transfer my superjet guts over to a rickter hull but I have a few questions. When out in the surf of Lake Michgian one of the things that frustrated me was the lack of hook up I got from the super jet. When I would come off a jump, I would land and the ski would bog down when trying to hook up again. I'm sure this has to do with it being stock and a combo of hp and the impeller? So that leads me to the Rickter, if I go the swap route, what else do I want to change on this? I'm assuming a pipe and and upgraded impeller? I've seen talk of pumps of various sizes but not sure what that all means for what I'm looking for?

End of the day, I want the stability of the Rickter and it's adjustable foot holds and I want it to hook up when I want it to. What's a good game plan?
 
Lumberjack

Lumberjack

Location
Saskatchewan
If you ad up and the small bits and pieces plus dealing with selling a bare SJ hull it's usually going to be cheaper buying a RTR machine. Not to mention the down time and potention trouble shooting your new build especially it's your first time.

There's been a few real nice fs2 and edge ski from the 12k to 15k range. If you figure by the time you buy a hull, full steering setup buying a RTF ski and selling your SJ whole is much easier, I value my time.

Hookup after landing is going to be increased by a mag pump. I have a hooker in my SJ and a skat track in my rickter and while they are definetly much better than a stock cast prop they do take a second to pull out of "bubbly" or surfy water until the pump gets 100% water. I'd stick with a prop and see how much better it is and save the thousand from a mag for other mods. Really depends how much you'll be in the surf
 
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wheelman1976

Location
michigan
Lumberjack said:
If you ad up and the small bits and pieces plus dealing with selling a bare SJ hull it's usually going to be cheaper buying a RTR machine. Not to mention the down time and potention trouble shooting your new build especially it's your first time.

There's been a few real nice fs2 and edge ski from the 12k to 15k range. If you figure by the time you buy a hull, full steering setup buying a RTF ski and selling your SJ whole is much easier, I value my time.

Hookup after landing is going to be increased by a mag pump. I have a hooker in my SJ and a skat track in my rickter and while they are definetly much better than a stock cast prop they do take a second to pull out of "bubbly" or surfy water until the pump gets 100% water. I'd stick with a prop and see how much better it is and save the thousand from a mag for other mods. Really depends how much you'll be in the surf
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Is it not that much just remove and replace on the rickter when transfering over? I was looking at this kit https://www.blowsion.com/rickter-starter-kit which says if you have a donor SJ that that is all you need. Am I missing something?
 
ProSouth

ProSouth

Seriously, Don't be a dick.
Location
kawasakis suck
wheelman1976 said:
Is it not that much just remove and replace on the rickter when transfering over? I was looking at this kit https://www.blowsion.com/rickter-starter-kit which says if you have a donor SJ that that is all you need. Am I missing something?
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I would contact tcfreeride for a possible lead on a used hull if you don't mind a used hull. He can also build you a donor hull setup like that and his quality is awesome. Idk if he has a website or anything but that's his name on instagram.
 
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wheelman1976

Location
michigan
ProSouth said:
I would contact tcfreeride for a possible lead on a used hull if you don't mind a used hull. He can also build you a donor hull setup like that and his quality is awesome. Idk if he has a website or anything but that's his name on instagram.
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I'll just have to do that once I get a minute to sit down. Winter in Michigan and not being able to ski isn't such a bad thing.
 
ProSouth

ProSouth

Seriously, Don't be a dick.
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wheelman1976 said:
How does registering work for these? If I swap guts over to a different hull is it considered a new boat or the old boat?
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A lot of people use the superjet registration and put the hin tags on the new hull. Others take it and have it inspected as a home built boat and they supply you with a hin number for it. It would probably be suspicious registering a rickter as a home built considering all the graphics and branding all over it.
 
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Tread dirt

Location
Everett, wa
Wheelman, I bought the Blowsion kit, 2016 Edge, and it has been awesome. The guys at Blowsion we’re very helpfull with helping me with my build. Jordan at Blowsion knows his stuff. I primarily ride lakes and really enjoy how playful the Edge is. It’s a very stable ski. When you land after a jump it is so stable and easy to move on to chasing the next boat wave. I ride a stock 2009 SJ, a 1991 Kaw 550sx and a 1995 Kaw 750 and I rode a Bob Gen 2 for a year (my donor for the Rickter) and I love riding the Edge more than all the others. My initial Edge build cost me a little more than I thought because of small parts (throttle cable, battery holder, gas tank hold down mounts, etc.), so plan on these types of things. Let me know of any question regarding my experience in building a Edge, I’m happy to help.
 
1natehundred

1natehundred

Location
maine
Tread dirt said:
Wheelman, I bought the Blowsion kit, 2016 Edge, and it has been awesome. The guys at Blowsion we’re very helpfull with helping me with my build. Jordan at Blowsion knows his stuff. I primarily ride lakes and really enjoy how playful the Edge is. It’s a very stable ski. When you land after a jump it is so stable and easy to move on to chasing the next boat wave. I ride a stock 2009 SJ, a 1991 Kaw 550sx and a 1995 Kaw 750 and I rode a Bob Gen 2 for a year (my donor for the Rickter) and I love riding the Edge more than all the others. My initial Edge build cost me a little more than I thought because of small parts (throttle cable, battery holder, gas tank hold down mounts, etc.), so plan on these types of things. Let me know of any question regarding my experience in building a Edge, I’m happy to help.
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How would you compare the sj to your edge?


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JRock637

JRock637

Location
Annapolis, MD
There is absolutely no comparison. None. I even had my 2013 sj at the same time as my Edge and road both. It’s completely 2 different things.


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1natehundred

1natehundred

Location
maine
JRock637 said:
There is absolutely no comparison. None. I even had my 2013 sj at the same time as my Edge and road both. It’s completely 2 different things.


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I understand that, just seeing what you liked so much more about the edge


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wheelman1976

Location
michigan
Tread dirt said:
Wheelman, I bought the Blowsion kit, 2016 Edge, and it has been awesome. The guys at Blowsion we’re very helpfull with helping me with my build. Jordan at Blowsion knows his stuff. I primarily ride lakes and really enjoy how playful the Edge is. It’s a very stable ski. When you land after a jump it is so stable and easy to move on to chasing the next boat wave. I ride a stock 2009 SJ, a 1991 Kaw 550sx and a 1995 Kaw 750 and I rode a Bob Gen 2 for a year (my donor for the Rickter) and I love riding the Edge more than all the others. My initial Edge build cost me a little more than I thought because of small parts (throttle cable, battery holder, gas tank hold down mounts, etc.), so plan on these types of things. Let me know of any question regarding my experience in building a Edge, I’m happy to help.
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Would you describe the Rickter as less tippy side to side? When I was out on lake michigan this weekend I felt my SJ was feeling tippy side to side, almost like I wished the ski was six inches wider as I was navagating the waves.
 
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Tread dirt

Location
Everett, wa
Yes, the Edge is more stable than a SJ. I have a 2009 stock SJ and the Edge is more nimble and stable. At high speed they both get a little squirrelly. The SJ carves turn really nicely and predictable - the Edge carves turns more quicker and tight. The Edge is like riding the 550sx but more stable and more power.

If you want a ski that is more stable and nimble than a SJ the Edge will put a smile on your face. I’m not into racing but I do like going fast at times, the Edge will do that. I really enjoy the “fun-factor” of the Edge.
 
E350

E350

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Location
Sacramento Delta
550sx -- nimble hull carves on edge, slides flat when you want to. Porpoises for a 205 lbs. guy with only two years tray time. Just nose slaps in chop without problem for my "full-suspension" 115 lbs. wife who spent years racing Superstock 440's. She beats me on the 550sx vs me on the X2 650cc at WOT. 550sx totally underpowered for a guy of my weight.

Tread dirt: I have been intrigued by the Edge. You got my attention when you compared it with a ski I (somewhat) know -- the 550sx. Thank you.

1. What engine and pump/nozzle are you running in your Edge?

2. What do you weigh?

3. Does the Rickter Edge ride nose high and always want to backflip?

4. Or can you keep the nose down at WOT?

Lumberjack, I have been following your input on the Edge too. Because you are running a "regular guy's" (i.e., financially accessible) SJ 701cc engine pump/nozzle set up. Your input is understandable to me and helpful. Keep it up...

fx1dave, if I let you hold my credit card, next Summer would you let me try your Edge for a gentle demo? And regardless, if you have time, would you post up your thoughts on the Edge (is it what you would buy now) and how -- what engine pump/nozzle combo -- you would set it up for Pismo surf...

Great thread guys!!!
 
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Tread dirt

Location
Everett, wa
E350; (1): initially I had a 701 with a B-pipe and a 144 mag pump. (2): I weight 173. (3) & (4): The Edge does Not ride nose high at all. I’ve got a “medium” length ride plate (meaning it’s length is no longer than the hull). The Edge rides nose down at all speeds. I had a Bob gen 2 and know very well what you mean by riding nose high - I didn’t like the Bob at all.

I’m not into back flips or rolls. ( although a friend a lot younger than I has back flipped my Edge). I enjoy carving turns across the lake like slalom snow skiing, getting air off boat wake, and general riding and screwing around on the water. I enjoy my SJ and 550sx but the Edge is the one ski I’d chose if I could only have one (I share these skis with my 3 sons, that’s why I have so many). Oh, and I just turn 63 yrs old yesterday and spent my birthday at the lake getting awesome air off a wake board boat, never to old to ride, just go to the gym every day to stay in shape.
 
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