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[WFO Speedracer]

You know when some of the people you mention get on the internet,start ridiculous threads and constantly rant and rave it becomes very hard to show them respect,I won't call any names here ,no need for that.Respect is earned and just because you think you have earned it does not mean that you can abuse it.I have been riding standup skis for 23 years now,it means absolutely nothing in the long run.

 

[kawasakit2me]

Find out what it means to me.... (Aretha) :Banane25:

I have been riding standups for about 12 years. There are certain people who have started these amazing things called 'Freerides' and built this Website and have helped this sport explode. To name a few: Superjett, Yamaslut, Jr, Pancake Pete, Big Kahuna, CG Racing, Ronnymac and many others along with new guys who are now picking up the reigns and throwing Freerides. What do they get back from all this??? (NOTHING!)

This WAS the only sport where you could talk to organizers and pros and ride with them at your local Freeride. (You can't go ride with Tony Hawk, Jeremy McGrath, Travis Pastrana, Dave Mirra, etc etc etc or talk with them on a website). Manufacturers of parts came on here and answered questions, showed off new parts, asked for feedback...etc etc etc.

Unfortunatly, we have lost most of them from this site due to smarta$s negative comments from 2% of the people on this site. We have also lost a whole slew of pro riders and shops from posting on this site (and I'm sure we'll lose more).

I really think we need to show a little respect to the ones who helped this whole thing grow over the last decade. Because 8 years ago, there was nothing. (except racing) I would hate to see the Daytona Ride fold, or stop seeing pros like the Caker, Pierre, Ross, Stoyer, Malone, stop showing up at these rides.

Basically, before you get 5 seconds of enjoyment by throwing a smarta$s comment or a negative thread on the internet......think about the effect your having on the other 98% of the Standup Freeride community.

....thats all I got.

Respect is a two way street. Ronny and SuperJETT have both always been very respectful to me personally and pretty much everyone else I've seen them interact with and it's no coincidence that they both have my respect 100% for what they do and who they are. You're on that list too DJ.

You get to ride with pros in a sport like this because it is as small as it is. Outside of our little community, nobody gives a . Yeah, Eric Malone may be a star on this forum, but I'm pretty sure he's not getting mobbed by fans when he goes out to do his grocery shopping. (Not that he doesn't deserve to be mobbed!! That is not a slam on Eric or any of the pros!)

People just need to put their hiking boots away. It's just a little molehill. Nothing that anyone says here is going to stop me from trying to get to the water any chance I get and having a blast when I get there.

 

[Kalwren]

...
Basically, before you get 5 seconds of enjoyment by throwing a smarta$s comment or a negative thread on the internet......think about the effect your having on the other 98% of the Standup Freeride community.

It's sad that this even needs to be said. However, I agree 100% with it.

Being polite costs you nothing. Being mean and rude costs everyone something (their time at the very least!).

While I don't expect to see rainbows and unicorns when I log in here, I do expect people to treat members and guests with respect and courtesy.

My $.02!

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Here is what I see going on here,in the thread below you have someone who is new to this website asking advice,notice what goes down there ,and why because he doesn't have a Superjet?

http://www.x-h2o.com/threads/60096

 

[WILKEY]

WFO :Banane35::Banane35::Banane35::Banane35: ur the man

 

[sflsurfrider]

i agree 100%

repeatedly being called names like ing asshole and ing scumbag, by a raving ritalin-deprived bipolar 'man', is not very respectful.

sakit2me sakit2me sakit2me sakit2me

sakit2me sakit2me sakit2me sakit2me

just a little bit... OOOH... just a little bit...

 

[cmeripper26]

I just gotta say its nice being part of a community where people are into the same shi....t trying to take the sport to new levels........ neverminde the petty bull arguments over nothing! i have been riding hardcore for 8 years and wrenching for 10 years with a clientel, hopefully my own shop someday.

 

['Crockett]

Hey guys,

I'm not a regular, so maybe this input doesn't carry any weight at all around here, but I'm gonna post this anyway . . . . . .


I've been riding stand ups and building all my own stuff for about 20 years so I like to think that I have a few things I could offer here from time to time, that being said, the main reason I don't post here more often is because the ego and Testosterone runs waaaaay to high over here.

Basically, it's a great site and I enjoy reading many of the posts, but frankly, at 49 I'm the same age as most of your Dad's are. . . . . . . . when I was a young man I didn't want to hang out with somebody my age and I'm guessing you don't either. The flip side is that for the most part, I'm past all the 20-something chest bumping, dick measuring, look at me stuff and don't want to be involved in that anymore.


The bottom line is this, we all ride . . . . . and we all ride stand ups, that makes us family. The elite-ism on this site is totally counter productive to the sport in general and it's sad to see that:

The ocean riders and the flat water/lake riders have a rivalry
The freestylers and the racers don't see eye to eye
The freestylers and the Freeriders have issues
etc. . etc. .


Not everyone is lucky enough to live near the ocean . . . . be thankful if you do, but before you criticize someone for "going fast in a straight line" between bouy's on a lake, get on a built SXR and TRY IT with 10 other guys on the course . . . . . . . it's very a very humbling experience.


I am fortunate enough to have both a Superjet and an SXR, they are both great ski's depending on what you are doing . . . . does it really matter which one is "Better" ? . . . . . isn't that subjective anyway ? Why the need for rivalry ?

I love my Superjet but frankly, my big stable, forgiving SXR is what is going to allow me to ride stand ups 'till I'm 60+ . . . which I fully intend to do !



I also want to address what I call the "gotta have it's" . . . these are the folks that say "you gotta have this" part or you "gotta have that part" and everything less is junk.

Sure in a perfect world a "B" pipe is better than a Pro-Tec or Coffman one, but honestly, to the entry level rider on a tight budget a $250.00 used Pro-Tec or Coffman pipe is affordable and makes waaaaay better power than stock pipe with out breaking your wallet.

I've tested Pro-Tec,Coffman and Factory pipes and the differences are noticable and real no arguement there. . . . but they are not HUGE. In fact, I'm not sure the entry level rider can ride well enough to utilize or appreciate the difference.

Let's encourage the noobs to build a ski they can afford and don't set unreasonable goals for them by saying there are no choices but the best and most expensive parts. Consider yourself fortunate if you have a Carbon fiber hull and a Lamey motor but remember, at the end of the day the guy with the low dollar Squarenose probably had just as much fun and is grinning just as big as the guy who's got a $25,000.00 ski.


There is an old joke about the hooker who laughs at the guy with the short pecker and says " who you think you're gonna please with that little thing" . . . . . . . his response ?

"ME ! . . . that's who !"

It doesn't matter the price of the ski or the componants it's assembled with, it's about the thrill and the pleasrue of spending a day on the water. . . . . .

I've already been too long winded here so let me say this . . . . You guys are the future of the sport, if you choose to be devisive, arrogant, egotistical (and any of a dozen other adjectives I can think of) then you will tear this sport apart completely and it will not attract new riders . . . . . I hope this sport is still going strong when you're my age and can enjoy getting the kick I get outta being "that funky old guy, riding that stand up".


Trust me . . . in a few years, as you get older, you will mellow and realize it's really all about the riding itself, not what, where or how you ride . . . . .
Don't wait for that mind set to come to you, make an active effort to move towards it, in the belief that it really is what's best for the sport we all love. . . . . .


That's my $ .02 worth . . . . . . .

'Crockett

 

[sflsurfrider]

i think what 'crockett means is, dont sweat the petty stuff and dont pet the sweaty stuff.

 

[SUPERJET-113]

SEE THE RIDE.

Sometime not being able to see in color adds more than it takes away - sometimes, as they say, less is more.
Color is complex. Color is hard. Color makes your eyes and mind work overtime - sometimes to the point that you can actually miss the point.

Many of the best things in life are the simple things that might look better in color, but can be appreciated more in the absence of color. The beauty of the absence of color is that it allows you to become part of your surroundings. Suddenly you, the water and the ski enjoy a greater sense of oneness because the colors that separated you and made you starkly different are gone.

The water, your skin, the splash, the sun - they all become able to be seen for what they have in common instead of whats different about them.

Think about this when you ride. In your mind, take away all the flashy colors and all the noise and appreciate riding for what it really is: simply, interacting with the world around you in a fun way - in a way that makes you feel totally and completely alive on a elemental level.

Its all about the ride...

JK - Jetsports 02'

 

[retroicon]

I'm feeling like I missed something ... but if I don't find out when the Freerides are in Central FL anymore, that's gonna suck.

G

 

[Nascency Chris]

... dont pet the sweaty stuff.

isn't that the best part though? hmmm...maybe I have it wrong....hmmmmmmmm...

 

[wsuwrhr]

Crockett,

When I first started out in the real world, many of the things I learned, I learned from the older guys in the shop. Because I was the youngest, at that time anyway, I took alot of banter and harmless ribbing, even though I didn't like it, I took the good with the bad. I listened and took many mental notes. The things I learned in my younger years, have for the most part, served me very well.

The roles are now reversed and I am the oldest in the shop now, I find that noone has the thirst for knowledge that I remember having and it makes me wonder where "we" will be in ten years, 15-20.

When I read your post, I am reminded of many of those early lessions sir. Perhaps if the younger generation realizes they don't know everything yet and will stop to listen, even if they don't apply what they "hear" today, maybe they will come across a situation tommorow and apply the lession then.

Either way I appreciate your post.

Thank you.

Brian

Hey guys,

I'm not a regular, so maybe this input doesn't carry any weight at all around here, but I'm gonna post this anyway . . . . . .


I've been riding stand ups and building all my own stuff for about 20 years so I like to think that I have a few things I could offer here from time to time, that being said, the main reason I don't post here more often is because the ego and Testosterone runs waaaaay to high over here.

Basically, it's a great site and I enjoy reading many of the posts, but frankly, at 49 I'm the same age as most of your Dad's are. . . . . . . . when I was a young man I didn't want to hang out with somebody my age and I'm guessing you don't either. The flip side is that for the most part, I'm past all the 20-something chest bumping, dick measuring, look at me stuff and don't want to be involved in that anymore.


The bottom line is this, we all ride . . . . . and we all ride stand ups, that makes us family. The elite-ism on this site is totally counter productive to the sport in general and it's sad to see that:

The ocean riders and the flat water/lake riders have a rivalry
The freestylers and the racers don't see eye to eye
The freestylers and the Freeriders have issues
etc. . etc. .


Not everyone is lucky enough to live near the ocean . . . . be thankful if you do, but before you criticize someone for "going fast in a straight line" between bouy's on a lake, get on a built SXR and TRY IT with 10 other guys on the course . . . . . . . it's very a very humbling experience.


I am fortunate enough to have both a Superjet and an SXR, they are both great ski's depending on what you are doing . . . . does it really matter which one is "Better" ? . . . . . isn't that subjective anyway ? Why the need for rivalry ?

I love my Superjet but frankly, my big stable, forgiving SXR is what is going to allow me to ride stand ups 'till I'm 60+ . . . which I fully intend to do !



I also want to address what I call the "gotta have it's" . . . these are the folks that say "you gotta have this" part or you "gotta have that part" and everything less is junk.

Sure in a perfect world a "B" pipe is better than a Pro-Tec or Coffman one, but honestly, to the entry level rider on a tight budget a $250.00 used Pro-Tec or Coffman pipe is affordable and makes waaaaay better power than stock pipe with out breaking your wallet.

I've tested Pro-Tec,Coffman and Factory pipes and the differences are noticable and real no arguement there. . . . but they are not HUGE. In fact, I'm not sure the entry level rider can ride well enough to utilize or appreciate the difference.

Let's encourage the noobs to build a ski they can afford and don't set unreasonable goals for them by saying there are no choices but the best and most expensive parts. Consider yourself fortunate if you have a Carbon fiber hull and a Lamey motor but remember, at the end of the day the guy with the low dollar Squarenose probably had just as much fun and is grinning just as big as the guy who's got a $25,000.00 ski.


There is an old joke about the hooker who laughs at the guy with the short pecker and says " who you think you're gonna please with that little thing" . . . . . . . his response ?

"ME ! . . . that's who !"

It doesn't matter the price of the ski or the componants it's assembled with, it's about the thrill and the pleasrue of spending a day on the water. . . . . .

I've already been too long winded here so let me say this . . . . You guys are the future of the sport, if you choose to be devisive, arrogant, egotistical (and any of a dozen other adjectives I can think of) then you will tear this sport apart completely and it will not attract new riders . . . . . I hope this sport is still going strong when you're my age and can enjoy getting the kick I get outta being "that funky old guy, riding that stand up".


Trust me . . . in a few years, as you get older, you will mellow and realize it's really all about the riding itself, not what, where or how you ride . . . . .
Don't wait for that mind set to come to you, make an active effort to move towards it, in the belief that it really is what's best for the sport we all love. . . . . .


That's my $ .02 worth . . . . . . .

'Crockett

 

[Nascency Chris]

Crockett,

When I first started out in the real world, many of the things I learned, I learned from the older guys in the shop. Because I was the youngest, at that time anyway, I took alot of banter and harmless ribbing, even though I didn't like it, I took the good with the bad. I listened and took many mental notes. The things I learned in my younger years, have for the most part, served me very well.

The roles are now reversed and I am the oldest in the shop now, I find that noone has the thirst for knowledge that I remember having and it makes me wonder where "we" will be in ten years, 15-20.

When I read your post, I am reminded of many of those early lessions sir. Perhaps if the younger generation realizes they don't know everything yet and will stop to listen, even if they don't apply what they "hear" today, maybe they will come across a situation tommorow and apply the lession then.

Either way I appreciate your post.

Thank you.

Brian

I would argue that its all a matter of perspective really...I think when all of us were young we thought we knew it all and those old kooks were clueless...unfortunately we are the old kooks now, but the younger generation will learn the same way you or I did (and still do)...one part listen to your elders, one part ram your head into the wall to figure out it hurts.

Crockett laid down some wise words though...just gotta keep a bit of long perspective on the whole thing...

 

[WaveDemon]

Let's encourage the noobs to build a ski they can afford and don't set unreasonable goals for them by saying there are no choices but the best and most expensive parts. Consider yourself fortunate if you have a Carbon fiber hull and a Lamey motor but remember, at the end of the day the guy with the low dollar Squarenose probably had just as much fun and is grinning just as big as the guy who's got a $25,000.00 ski.

this statement works for all hobbies, my only disagreement is that the noob is probably having more fun than the guy with the $25,000 ski.


I'm not on here as much, glad I missed what ever this thread is about.

 

[ski4]

this statement works for all hobbies, my only disagreement is that the noob is probably having more fun than the guy with the $25,000 ski.


I'm not on here as much, glad I missed what ever this thread is about.

i second that

 

[brett]

crockett's the man

 

[the WaTeRhAwK]

this statement works for all hobbies, my only disagreement is that the noob is probably having more fun than the guy with the $25,000 ski.

I'm glad you said that. it brings back killer memories of the first time I ever sat foot on a ski. I remember how scared I was about not knowing how the thing was going to react to me, and vice-versa. a super powerful 550 ( at the time) with a hair trigger throttle, that thing was so intimidating it kicked my 4ss all over the lake for the first three days I had it. I remember the adrenaline rush and jitters I had when the motor first kicked on, i was excited and scared, shaking almost as bad as the ski. killer memories.

 

[SuziQ]

I'm glad you said that. it brings back killer memories of the first time I ever sat foot on a ski. I remember how scared I was about not knowing how the thing was going to react to me, and vice-versa. a super powerful 550 ( at the time) with a hair trigger throttle, that thing was so intimidating it kicked my 4ss all over the lake for the first three days I had it. I remember the adrenaline rush and jitters I had when the motor first kicked on, i was excited and scared, shaking almost as bad as the ski. killer memories.

lol on the first three days! That has to truly be my favorite thing...getting someone on a standup for the first time.

 

[Watty]

Agreed....but when these people let something so simple get to them to where they delete their accounts, quit riding, etc it is ridiculous.

There are always going to be different opinions, bickering, etc. You just have to be adult enough to take it.

If you let a message board interfere with your "sport" or your business that much then I don't feel sorry for you.

I don't see Steve or Bobby (first ones that came to mind) pitching a fit and deleting their accounts every time someone disagrees with their product/business. Hell.....Waterdawg still posts on here (although not as much) and they are dogged on a daily basis.


Don't sweat the small stuff....and that is all this message board is.:biggrin:

I'm with you on this one...if you want to step up to the plate and be someone, you have to be prepared to put yourself on the line, and take whatever comes with it.

There will always be haters, no matter what sport you're into, but if you're really passionate about it, it won't matter that people are ragging on you...thats life!