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2014 Rage Composite Works Brawler Hull
Here is the build details below and on the last post from me i have listed more details. I never completed the build and am selling the hull.
It all started a few years back when they started the company and contacted us about relasing the Brawler hull at the Lake Erie Freeride. With every hull they have laid up, they have learned something and are not afraid to discuss it. They are at a point now where the process is second nature and hard to keep up with their speed and precision of work when visiting, so I had to make a second trip back to their shop.
The first time I visited we both knew that i was going to order a hull. We went though all of the builds in their shop, and discussed the benefits of each process. They offered ideas and assured me in every facet of the design.
I have probably ridden a Brawler more than any other non Brawler owner around, so the decision to order one was a no brainer for me. As we all know at this point there are no bad hulls left on the regular market, but there is bad management, poor customer service, and sometimes poor execution. This was HUGE for me!
They had guaranteed me a delivery date, and a build schedule and not only did that but have exceeded my expectations and delivered early causing me to not have most of my parts ready for this build. How ofter does that happen? Delivery was supposed to be after "Wavedaze", but this will be in their booth on display. I had asked for a Carbon layup, and they as you will see, went above and beyond as usual.
They invited me back down to give them a hand with the build and show me the process. I wasnt ready for what I was taught. I could not explain here all that they have shown me, but all I can say is I truly appreciate it.
We started with the easy parts for me, and with some past glass and mild carbon work I understood the basics. They took it to the next level while we were working and explained every other process to me and why they choose to do it the way they do.
As we all know there are no perfect flat water/surf hulls on the market. But there are some compromises that can be made that can have minor effects on each. As we have seen from the 2013 Lake Erie Freeride and 2014 Daytona Freeride, this hull excells in the surf and flat. Out of all the hulls i have ridden there are a few hulls, in my opinion, at this level. The final decision for me was after buying the Xscream KDX, IMO carbon is the only way to go for me. Originally I thought it was useless in the surf but have since found it allows me to have much more control of the ski in the air. A heavier hull is easier to control in the waves but I now really enjoy the lighter ride.
As usual for me I'm not 100% positive where I will ride this ski so I'm shooting down the middle with the build and hoping to figure it out as i ride it, tweaking it along the way. This has much to do with our ride area. Some days its a pond and others it can be overhead slop. I have realized I like both and get depressed watching clean surf roll in and all i have is a flat water ski. On flat days I was getting bored riding a heavy SJ in circles. LOL
I wont bore you with all the minor details of everything that we did, but offer some photos of the process of the build.
2014 Carbon Brawler, non-adjustable rear ride plate. I feel its perfect for all conditions as is and didnt want the extra weight of the ride plate. If you are unsure of this hull you may want to add this feature, especially for the surf.
Superfreak footholds. I decided on these as I really like Tem's holds, and the kick in style as opposed to the step in. Helps in flat water, IMO. If you are not familiar with this hull, order the adjustable holds and you can suit your ride position according to your ride style. Again I wanted to save the weight and the adjustables are heavier.
Front foothold, this is their newest design, and for surf in the only way to go. Its massive and allows you to keep the nose down in all conditions. They made a new mold for this while I was there and I helped lay this up. What an experience in not only making a part, but in helping with a mold and understanding all that goes into the process.
Final weight TBD, but rumor has it in the mid 50's. This was done to be a competition weight hull, that will be abused in the surf by a medium skilled rider. In other words, crazy enough to go big, but not good enough to guarantee a soft landing.
Jet Dynamics 155 mm Alumn shoe
Skat Track 155 mm set back Mag
H2O Products Set back drive shaft
Thrust 155 Trim
Aura Mount, Pole, Steering
ODI grips
TPE motor TBD
Boyesen intake and reeds
OEM midshaft and housing
Carbon Brawler ridepate
H20 Scupper
Carbon battery box for Odyssey full size battery.
The rest to be determined as they finished this hull way too fast for me.
As you can see, they do a few small things that go along way in the build. SS water lines, with flared ends so the hose doesnt come off easily. The ability to choose your layout of the lines. They put both lines on the left for me and in 1/2" so it will match the pump and PFP. I wont need all that but its nice to know its there if I ever require more cooling.
Here is the build details below and on the last post from me i have listed more details. I never completed the build and am selling the hull.
It all started a few years back when they started the company and contacted us about relasing the Brawler hull at the Lake Erie Freeride. With every hull they have laid up, they have learned something and are not afraid to discuss it. They are at a point now where the process is second nature and hard to keep up with their speed and precision of work when visiting, so I had to make a second trip back to their shop.
The first time I visited we both knew that i was going to order a hull. We went though all of the builds in their shop, and discussed the benefits of each process. They offered ideas and assured me in every facet of the design.
I have probably ridden a Brawler more than any other non Brawler owner around, so the decision to order one was a no brainer for me. As we all know at this point there are no bad hulls left on the regular market, but there is bad management, poor customer service, and sometimes poor execution. This was HUGE for me!
They had guaranteed me a delivery date, and a build schedule and not only did that but have exceeded my expectations and delivered early causing me to not have most of my parts ready for this build. How ofter does that happen? Delivery was supposed to be after "Wavedaze", but this will be in their booth on display. I had asked for a Carbon layup, and they as you will see, went above and beyond as usual.
They invited me back down to give them a hand with the build and show me the process. I wasnt ready for what I was taught. I could not explain here all that they have shown me, but all I can say is I truly appreciate it.
We started with the easy parts for me, and with some past glass and mild carbon work I understood the basics. They took it to the next level while we were working and explained every other process to me and why they choose to do it the way they do.
As we all know there are no perfect flat water/surf hulls on the market. But there are some compromises that can be made that can have minor effects on each. As we have seen from the 2013 Lake Erie Freeride and 2014 Daytona Freeride, this hull excells in the surf and flat. Out of all the hulls i have ridden there are a few hulls, in my opinion, at this level. The final decision for me was after buying the Xscream KDX, IMO carbon is the only way to go for me. Originally I thought it was useless in the surf but have since found it allows me to have much more control of the ski in the air. A heavier hull is easier to control in the waves but I now really enjoy the lighter ride.
As usual for me I'm not 100% positive where I will ride this ski so I'm shooting down the middle with the build and hoping to figure it out as i ride it, tweaking it along the way. This has much to do with our ride area. Some days its a pond and others it can be overhead slop. I have realized I like both and get depressed watching clean surf roll in and all i have is a flat water ski. On flat days I was getting bored riding a heavy SJ in circles. LOL
I wont bore you with all the minor details of everything that we did, but offer some photos of the process of the build.
2014 Carbon Brawler, non-adjustable rear ride plate. I feel its perfect for all conditions as is and didnt want the extra weight of the ride plate. If you are unsure of this hull you may want to add this feature, especially for the surf.
Superfreak footholds. I decided on these as I really like Tem's holds, and the kick in style as opposed to the step in. Helps in flat water, IMO. If you are not familiar with this hull, order the adjustable holds and you can suit your ride position according to your ride style. Again I wanted to save the weight and the adjustables are heavier.
Front foothold, this is their newest design, and for surf in the only way to go. Its massive and allows you to keep the nose down in all conditions. They made a new mold for this while I was there and I helped lay this up. What an experience in not only making a part, but in helping with a mold and understanding all that goes into the process.
Final weight TBD, but rumor has it in the mid 50's. This was done to be a competition weight hull, that will be abused in the surf by a medium skilled rider. In other words, crazy enough to go big, but not good enough to guarantee a soft landing.
Jet Dynamics 155 mm Alumn shoe
Skat Track 155 mm set back Mag
H2O Products Set back drive shaft
Thrust 155 Trim
Aura Mount, Pole, Steering
ODI grips
TPE motor TBD
Boyesen intake and reeds
OEM midshaft and housing
Carbon Brawler ridepate
H20 Scupper
Carbon battery box for Odyssey full size battery.
The rest to be determined as they finished this hull way too fast for me.
As you can see, they do a few small things that go along way in the build. SS water lines, with flared ends so the hose doesnt come off easily. The ability to choose your layout of the lines. They put both lines on the left for me and in 1/2" so it will match the pump and PFP. I wont need all that but its nice to know its there if I ever require more cooling.
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