Custom/Hybrid Registering an after market hull

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I think if it were easy the builders / mfr of the hull would offer this as an option dont you?

The reason that hull manufacturers don't offer this probably has more to do with taxes than convenience.

This is actually the snag that hung my registration up for a few weeks. The DMV thought that my builder should have provided me with a HIN and put it back on him. We had to go thru the coast guard and get proof that hull builders are exempt from providing HINs. We never did track down the official documentation nor did they forward me any details on it like I requested but they did eventually approve mine.

The reasoning is simple. A HIN contains details about the craft; model, year, engine size, options etc. since builders only provide the hull, the other details aren't part of the deal and are unknown. Companies that build and sell complete skis can apply for a boat builders license and get the priveledge of their own HIN sequence. A few have done it already but I believe it only applies to production craft over a certain number such as the Octane.
 
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Oregon
I live in Oregon and just had the sheriff do a HIN inspection on my WDK ROK he didn't even ask for receipts:deal:. Then took it to the local boat shop to register it. So fare only cost me $62.00 for registration.
now I wait to get HIN #'s from the state then have a plaque with HIN #'s made. the boat shop gave me a temporary registration so I'm legit now.
all in all it was rely simple.
fill out some forms, setup an inspection date, register.
hopefully the state doesn't throw a stick in my spokes when the papers actually hit someones desk:fingersx:
 

Matt_E

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I just registered my Superfreak today and it couldn't have been easier. I think a title/HIN swap would have been far more hassle.
I simply took a bill of materials (Tem helped me with this) to the local Department of Licensing Office.
Registration as a homebuilt took less than 10 minutes. The title should be in my hands in 4-6 weeks.
 

Matt_E

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Yes, it's supposed to be the cost of materials that you use to build the hull. Really, the state just wants taxes.

This wasn't accurate. Tem sent me something, and I created another invoice with less materials (I didn't use a 55 gallon drum of resin, LOL!).
They don't charge a whole lot of taxes on that in WA. The materials value that I wrote up was ~1100. I paid $7 in taxes and $31 for the registration through next year.
I was issued a HIN, too.
 
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Schmidty721

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WI
I registered my BOB in WI last week. Went to the DNR with a Bill of Materials Derrick at the SKi clinic wrote up for me. Took about 10 min, cost me $22 as they weren't interested in charging me any taxes, Tags are good for 3 years and I was issued a HIN on the spot. No inspection, no questions. Registered as a 2011 home built, Model = (BOB)

Went straight from the DNR to the local trophy shop and he made up 2 HIN plates for $4. This is about the ONLY thing that has gone well on my BOB build in the last 2 week :(
 
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Oregon
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i got my title and it said 2010 home built i wanted it to say WDK ROK or something along those lines, i called the marine borad and ask to have it changed we settled on WDK ROK kit. all i had to do was mail the title back to them and wait for the new title with the correct verbiage on it.
on a side note the freakn cop that did the hin inspection put down 2010 even though it was the appropriate time of the year for any vehicles model year roll out.
i even asked him to put 2011.
he was all..... "i was picked on as a child so im trippn on powa":Banane36:.....NO.
i tried to get the marine board to change it to a 2011 but around here what the cop writes is Gospel.
swapping hin # will allow you to get insurance with less of a hassle, assuming one can get insurance on a "custom" ski. however they will pull comparable ski's value when it comes to a loss. I have found out that getting insurance on a "custom"/"kit" ski is difficult. homeowners has caps on losses and a max of around $1000-$2500 for "garage items" your vehicle/trailer insurance will not cover the ski either, it may cover a very small amount if your lucky.
i can get an 8K policy on my SJ for $250 a year that will cover theft,fire,damage etc.. but Ive definitely got to dig deeper for the insurance for the ROK.
this is definitely something one should have on there high dollar ski. wouldn't that be sweet to come back from work or vacation to find your ski is gone probably to be parted out to people that don't even know what they have:Eyecrazy:
 

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Originally Posted by Matt_E
I sprayed more clear today. It is baking right now and I'll probably let it cure until at least Sunday.
I also got the hull titled and registered - the legal way. This was a huge concern of mine and I had been dreading it.
But it was super-easy and done in 10 minutes.



No big deal when you buy from the builder.

Pretty hard when you buy one from someone second hand who kept the registration for it for their next aftermarket hull. DNR wants a notarized affadavit from the builder on why it didn't come with a HIN# along with a notarized bill of sale.(requires builder to create phony bill of sale) If you claim you built it yourself they want receipts for materials. (A couple of yards of biax and carbon and a gallon kit of resin won't cut it) There is not an option for "I bought it from someone who either used another skis HIN to register it or had a homemade HIN issued for it but kept that HIN and now I want to register it as a homemade ski." (That tends to get people in trouble.)

Once a ski is taken down the dark path forever will it dominate it's destiny. I bought a HIN for $75.​
 

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Well I am going to go thru this yet again. I was digging thru the paperwork from my last hull and found a notation that told me that they would allow this once and that I would require an exemption from the USCG to ever do it again. Let's hope they have short term memory or I can find a loophole.

Last time I was able to register it as a Trintiy Matrix so I would really like to do it that way again. I could go the homebuilt way as well but I really don't know how I would come up with enough receipts to pull it off.

Some good reading on the regulations here...They never mention any costs involved but it doesnt sound very hard for a builder to qualify for a MIR number or
http://www.uscgboating.org/regulations/boatbuilder_s_handbook/part_1_d.aspx

The whole regulation is here:
http://www.uscgboating.org/regulations/boat_builders_handbook_and_regulations.aspx
 
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