Rule announces new series of Bilge pumps

[OCD Solutions]

Apparently Rule decided it was time to update old faithful and come out with a new line of bilge pumps.

Thankfully, it appears that the old style is still available as the new ones will not fit any existing brackets.

Anyways, here is one of the new Rule 360 GPH pumps in a side by side with the old style 500GPH. The old style 360's and 500's were identical in size but you can see here that the new 360 is a tad taller and apparently the new 500 is even taller yet.

http://www.xylemflowcontrol.com/rule/rule-electric-submersible-pumps.htm

Non-automatic styles 12VDC with 3/4" discharge
Old Rule 360 - 24
Old Rule 500 - 25D
Old Rule PWC 500 - 25D-6WC
Old Rule 800 - 20R

New rule 360 - 24DA
New Rule 500 - 25DA
New Rule 800 - 20DA

Automatic styles 12VDC with 3/4" discharge
Old Rule 500 - 25S
Old Rule 800 - 20RS

 

[DAG]

Oh I like the one way rubber thing, or at least that's what it looks like?

 

[OCD Solutions]

Yeah, there's actually a couple decent improvements.

The one way valve;


There's also an assortment of different style outlets available, including a 90deg bend;

 

[BruceSki]

Looks like a vacuum breaker for a commercial toilet. Probably helps keep the pump primed.

 

[CD155MX]

Do the clips that hold the strainer on look like they've been improved at all?

 

[restosud]

wonder why the 360 draws more amps than the 500.

 

[Jyzmbe]

I like how the base lets you swivel the pump to get it just right


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[9tyfiveblaster]

Good afternoon guys. In doing my scouting on bilge pumps I stumbled into this thread. I too was curious at why the newer pump that is supposedly more efficient uses more amps so I emailed Xylem Flow Control and below is their response. So good news it appears it is more efficient according to their data sheets.

The new pump (500) is .4" taller and 1/8" wider.

"If you look at the first attachment of the old 25D pump, it had an amp draw of 2.5 amps @ 13.6 volts.
This is with the engine running and it is charging the battery.
If you look at the second attachment for the 25DA, you will see that it draws 1.8 amps @ 13.6 volts.
This indicates that the pump is more efficient and draws less amps."

 

[vomitspot]

Oh I like the one way rubber thing, or at least that's what it looks like?

always use a rubber thing

 

[bored&stroked]

Good afternoon guys. In doing my scouting on bilge pumps I stumbled into this thread. I too was curious at why the newer pump that is supposedly more efficient uses more amps so I emailed Xylem Flow Control and below is their response. So good news it appears it is more efficient according to their data sheets.

The new pump (500) is .4" taller and 1/8" wider.

"If you look at the first attachment of the old 25D pump, it had an amp draw of 2.5 amps @ 13.6 volts.
This is with the engine running and it is charging the battery.
If you look at the second attachment for the 25DA, you will see that it draws 1.8 amps @ 13.6 volts.
This indicates that the pump is more efficient and draws less amps."

So where does it say the new ones use more amps as you stated?

 

[9tyfiveblaster]

So where does it say the new ones use more amps as you stated?

I didn't (originally) state it. In reading this thread I saw restosud's post "wonder why the 360 draws more amps than the 500" and misread it. Thought he said old 500 to new 500. When I looked at the site this appeared to be true (also). Below are screenshots on what is listed as specs on their site. They list the 25D (old one) at 1.9 amps and the 25DA (new one) at 2.7.

Upon contacting them they provided tech data and response in my above post.

Maybe someone with some time could drop one of each of these in a bathtub with say an 18" rise on the hose and see what each are really pulling down

 

[SXIPro]

I'd still take an old style Atwood V500 over any of the Rule offerings.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

One of the best additions I have ever installed inline with my bilge system is the Waterwitch 217 electronic bilge switch. I added in a backup switch if it ever dies, but 3 years solid now and going strong. It senses a certain amount of water, kicks on the bilge automatically

https://waterwitchinc.com/bilge-switches/

 

[fastgtfairlane]

i bought a new style 500gph pump this past year that had the check valve in it. when i would turn the pump on it would pump briefly then stop pumping as if it would loose its prime. removed the check valve and it would work as it was supposed to. im not sure how or why but the check valve caused the pump to not work properly.

 

[DAG]

These are what's up!!

 

[Pro-pulsion]

These are what's up!!

I run one of those too along side of my bilge system

 

[OCD Solutions]

All 3 of my trusted suppliers are now sold out of the original style Rule's so I ordered form another source that still showed them on their website, unfortunately when they arrived, they were in fact the new style 25DA's.

I ripped them pretty hard about not contacting me prior to making a substitution and now they seem less than enthusiastic about me returning them.

So, I either have to send them back or suck it up and try to sell them. And of course it happens when I place a larger order so it's not like I just have one or two on the shelf.

 

[McDog]

Had a company do same to me. New 360 not behaving right. I'll try removing the rubber thing and see if it makes a difference.

 

[OCD Solutions]

Well I guess if they don’t make them anymore, there’s not much sense in clinging to the past.

Time to adapt.

 

[2002zxi]

will the newer style 25DA 500s fit under the midshaft like the older ones did?