Super Jet SJ Factory B pipe (dual Cooling)

I broke down and ordered a Factory B pipe today. I was wondering if I should drill and tap the the manifold for a second cooling elbow prior to putting the mani on? I plan on drilling and tapping the pump this winter after the season is over. I dont want to pull the manifold off after the install. Could I just tee the line coming into the original cooling elbow allowing for semi dual cooling?
How important is a flow control valve with a B pipe??
 
you could drill & tap the manifold now, and T it like you said. No problem. Heck, that's how I run mine all the time: single cooling line feeding both manifold inlets. (My second cooling line feeds the B-pipe.)

Just do it in a way so that both legs of the T are equal length-ish and that the lines hang as best as possible so air doesn't get trapped. You want the water to push the air up and through and out.

Just to make sure I know what you mean when you say "flow control valve", I'm gonna explain both things since sometimes the term gets misused:
- if you mean the spring-loaded ball assembly sold by Jetworks used to limit water flow to the stinger at idle, then you don't ever need one. It's gives a bit of performance gain (better immediate response off idle since the exhaust doesn't have to push water out of the waterbox first). Plenty of people run a B pipe and have no clue what a jetworks flow control valve is.
- if you mean an adjustable needle valve (technically also a flow control valve), where you pinch the water flow manually using an adjustable screw & lock nut so as to control the amount of water going through the overboard pisser, then you don't need one of those either. But you do want to throttle down the water flow that is pissing overboard somehow. Some people drill out old carb jets and stick those in the line at the pisser, I use nylon stand-offs from the bins at home depot. This restriction helps to a) build and maintain pressure in the B-pipe, so that it's internal bleed holes work more effectively and b) helps to dial in proper cylinder head temperature.

Hope that helps...
 
Double-check, but AFAIK the Factory pipe comes with the carb jets you need to swap out...but if not, then you can't go wrong ordering from Jetmaniac...
 

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you did not list your location
if in Tx or deep south, dual cooling is a must
Alaska, not so much
stock motors dont need dual cooling
hi compression ported motors do
fcv is worth the $$ in my experience
 
id tap the mani anyhow, and tee the line coming to it. makes for more even cooling to each cyl. i had my dual cooling set up where one line went to the manifold, one to the head pipe. when my manifold only had the inlet on the front, i noticed my rear cyl got hotter to the touch (had dual outlets on the head) since then i have tapped and run both lines to my manifold first, then one overboard and one to the headpipe off the head. much more even cooling it feels like.
 
I agree, dual cooling can be overkill. However, if done right, it adds a bit of redundancy without hurting anything. The OP said he was already planning on doing it.

Yes, it possible to have too much cooling such that the cylinders / pistons aren't at proper temp. That's where the restrictors (after the engine) come in to play.

I also agree that the Jetworks FCV is worth the money and works like it is supposed to (my first reply didn't say that very clearly)...but it is a separate mod from the B-pipe install, and not required for the B-pipe to work.
 

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definitely tap both elbows on the manifold. Whether you actually run 1 line to manifold and the other to headpipe is up to you taking into consideration what was said about water temps. FCV is also a good investment. Just keep in mind - the hotter the pipe the more brapp you get
 
Brapp is good, lotsa good info here. I think I will get a FCV. Does anyone remeber a thread detailing the second cooling line coming from the pump. Just wondering about the firewall bulkhead.
 

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most people use the factory bilge siphon line
you also have to pull the pump and tap it for dual cooling
 
yes use the siphon line. you will need a bilge pump if you dont have one all ready. also might aswell tap the pump now. only takes less then an hour to do it.

then try it out! ive slid 2'' lengths of fuel line for restricters. if you need some that works well. my setup now has one line off the head to the headpipe, and the other line going overboard has a fuelline restricter to get even flow. works good, motor stays nice an warm.
 
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