SJ Pulse coli issue

After replacing the CDI, Stator, and SSS my ski still will not rev up or run smooth. I disconnect the white/red wire (pulse coil) and it revs out fine and even seems to idle smoother. Did the same thing with my last stator.

Why would this be happening if I have a new JSS stator with ebox harness?!?

Is there any issues with riding it disconnected for the weekend?
 

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When you disconnect the white/red wire, you lose the feedback to the CDI for rpm. Therefore it cannot make any changes based on RPM. Timing curve, rev limit, limp mode, etc.

I can't remember the specifics of the trial but I posted my findings in a thread here somewhere. The timing falls back to something like 16 degrees advanced and as the rpm increases, it approaches zero deg and pretty much stays there above 6500 RPM.

Edit: Found my previous post;
I'll try and post the video to show what I learned today but basically, it holds 16deg of static advance just as I had previously reported but as the rpm increases beyond 3000 RPM, the timing actually starts to retard until it reaches 0deg TDC around 8000 RPM.

Further evidence that while probably safe to run, this is still a performance killer.
Thread for further reference;
http://www.x-h2o.com/index.php?threads/cdi-red-white-wire.159797/

As for why, I can only think of a few reasons, most of which would be ruled out since you already replaced the CDI and stator.

Is there a chance you are running a mismatch of flywheel/stator? 61X flywheel/62 Stator or vice versa?

Running a mismatch will result in a large offset of base timing. I can't remember if it's 10deg or 18deg, due to how the coils are indexed on the backing plate?.?.? Which direction it goes (advance/retarded), will depend on what combo you have.
 
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I did a full rebuild this winter on the motor. Everything is new. Blue ported 61x cylinder, dual 44's, b pipe...Is it worth it to ride/break in this weekend riding with the white/red disconnected? Or am I asking for trouble? I need to tune the ski as well as it was not jetted for my elevation...
 

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That's good. So we're back to figuring out why a freshly built and untuned boat won't rev clean...

Given the list of new components you shouldn't have any issues with them so I would focus on jetting and tuning and see where that gets you.

I'm guessing that your jetting is close and that unplugging the pulse coil detunes your ski enough to better match the current jetting. In troubleshooting we call that a red herring, AKA misdirection.
 
Current jetting:
Main 115
Pilot 120
N/S 2.3
Spring 65g
Elevation 4500-5500ft
Pop off right at 15-16 psi, crisp full rebuild on carbs
62t/61x, Blue ported 61x, ADA head, B pipe, TnT waterbox, dual 44's
 
Confirmed with timing light that this is a timing/electrical issue...
Rotating the stator to both extremes produced the same results...no difference in rev limit/lack of ability to rev...
62t stator (JSS new rebuild) and 62t flywheel confirmed
unplug pulse coil, and she revs and idles 10x better
Lost in the dark here.....
 
After replacing the CDI, Stator, and SSS my ski still will not rev up or run smooth. I disconnect the white/red wire (pulse coil) and it revs out fine and even seems to idle smoother. Did the same thing with my last stator.

Why would this be happening if I have a new JSS stator with ebox harness?!?

Is there any issues with riding it disconnected for the weekend?

What about your coil and plug wires?
 
Ok, borrowed a very nice Fluke unit and got to testing.

14-17 volts from the Wht/Red pluse coil at idle
BOTH Cdi's Im working with give no readings except when I test Black/Black and it zero's out. Otherwise no other reading can be had from either Cdi. I'm using the screen shot on testing the Cdi from the manual in another thread...

Does this confirm I'm dealing with two bad Cdi's?
 
And I feel like a total fool!! Never trust how the PO of your ski wired up the Cdi or anything for that matter!!
The pink wire out of the Cdi was wired to ground! I was in constant overheat limp mode...so bummed but happy I figured it out and didn't just keep throwing money and parts at my ski...
 
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