Sliding track system vs gunwale plate-does anyone have access to a cnc machine/laser cutting?

Jhucke

Jhucke

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Roseand said:
Oooooh this is exciting. First, read my above post since I edited it.
Did I say I was trying to make a freestyle machine? Hellllll no! I don't care if its a squarenose or a roundnose or whatever the hell it is. It's gotta last me the next 4+ years, and I'm going to do whatever the hell I can on it. The way I flick it around it doesn't really seem like a tank to me..I have no problem getting it inverted. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I am pretty broke. But why not make the most of what I have? I've said it a million times as well, anything is possible in the surf, or off of a vwake, and a hell of a lot is possible off of a big wakeboard/wakesurf boat wake.
Yes, I would highly recommend you have your engine built by someone reputable, especially if funds allow.
Do I consider myself a reputable engine porter? Hell no I don't. But hey, Why not take it as an opportunity to learn a new skill, and at the same time learn more about how my engine benefits from a modified exhaust port? Someday I'll have the funds to have someone like Zack port my engines, but for now, I'm going to make the best outta what I have and do what I'm comfortable with...Plus learn alot. I have no idea what port timings I'm gonna run, whatsoever. But as long as you follow the sportport template and do a quality job on your grinding & chamfering, and know a thing about tuning, there's nothing but gains. Sure, maybe a little bit of shortened ring life but I could care less for the extra power.
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Oh really, then what exactly are you going for? You don't want a freestyle machine, coming from a guy that runs a gallon of race fuel with 93 and is too scared to hold his 701 wide open for more than a second. It's certainly not a race boat is it... So let me get this straight, you have zero seconds of porting experience and you want your engine to last for a long time, yet you are sport porting it... Okay. Squares are absolutely a tank even though they are not extremely hard to get inverted, have you ridden a ski that is actually flickable?
 
Roseand

Roseand

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Jhucke said:
Oh really, then what exactly are you going for? You don't want a freestyle machine, coming from a guy that runs a gallon of race fuel with 93 and is too scared to hold his 701 wide open for more than a second. It's certainly not a race boat is it... So let me get this straight, you have zero seconds of porting experience and you want your engine to last for a long time, yet you are sport porting it... Okay. Squares are absolutely a tank even though they are not extremely hard to get inverted, have you ridden a ski that is actually flickable?
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That was right in the start of the season, I was a little sketch after losing a motor.. I still run 4 gals of premium to 1 gallon of race gas just to be safe, and I peg it chasing boats and definitely hold it WOT for more than a few seconds nowadays. Why not pay a couple extra bucks for cheap insurance when it's at the same place I normally get my gas anyways? It's cheap insurance, and it's convenient for me. @chadman154 does the same thing..
@Jhucke, I'm not worried about it lasting for a long time. Yes, ring life may be reduced but that's the small part. Top end rebuilds are one thing, but yes, crank life is the bigger issue. I'm willing to sacrifice a little extra wear and tear for more power. That means I plan on inspecting the crank every season or two, and of course rebuild the topend when needed in the next 4 years. Pushing over 100 hours of riding a season that's a given. Yes, I had a different mindset then, but now I've learned to face reality.
Yes, I rode a badass freak. 701, TL, high comp, tuned very well. Extremely flickable and powerful. After that, I still consider my square flickable. I have no problem whipping it around..
Jhucke, you definitely talk like you're pretty serious into riding and know what's good. You should post up some pics and vids of your riding bro.
 
MCrider

MCrider

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Jackson MI
Once you get going it's pretty simple. I used solidworks in highschool and when I went to college they started us in autocad I was like well this is stupid compared to solid works..
 
speedysprocket

speedysprocket

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Chesapeake, VA
I can't follow your description of your idea, and don't necessarily agree with putting so much work into a square nose, but I understand your budget and desire to be successful with something different. That being said, I think I've adjusted my Krash holds positions like 5 times in a year. I ride regular style, not goofy foot, so the current setup I'm trying is my right hold all the way back, left all the way forward. It's a short tray, so the difference is only like 3 or 4 inches, but I still like it more than having them both in the same place. And for a little more surf stance, there's the front foot hold. It's also easier to turf a foot hold you can hold in your lap and turf a tray with no holds in it!
Good luck with your project. Hopefully it saves you some money for the ice cream mod next winter...!
 
Roseand

Roseand

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MCrider said:
Once you get going it's pretty simple. I used solidworks in highschool and when I went to college they started us in autocad I was like well this is stupid compared to solid works..
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Yeah its getting easier! Only used it a handful of times since classes just started last week. Its just a matter of time since there are many different ways to do things, but Solidworks is very sensitive to how you do things.. So sometimes it frustrating when you're doing something that makes sense in your head but solid works doesn't go for it...
 
Roseand

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speedysprocket said:
I can't follow your description of your idea, and don't necessarily agree with putting so much work into a square nose, but I understand your budget and desire to be successful with something different. That being said, I think I've adjusted my Krash holds positions like 5 times in a year. I ride regular style, not goofy foot, so the current setup I'm trying is my right hold all the way back, left all the way forward. It's a short tray, so the difference is only like 3 or 4 inches, but I still like it more than having them both in the same place. And for a little more surf stance, there's the front foot hold. It's also easier to turf a foot hold you can hold in your lap and turf a tray with no holds in it!
Good luck with your project. Hopefully it saves you some money for the ice cream mod next winter...!
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In terms of brackets, I'm talking about them being mounted to the outside of the hull like Bob style, but different adjusting slot ideas.
It's not gonna be any harder than Bob holds in a superjet. After what I all did this winter to my tray I'm not worried about difficulty. I like glasswork.
Haha, someday I'll get my ice cream package ;)
Who knows what it'll be.. After college comes a lightweight hull with a ported 701 till I get comfy with the hull, and then move up to most likely something from php :)
 
Roseand

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700Pirate said:
Hard core sn plans mate. I thought all you needed was some light re enforcement, a short pole and rec holds with straps either side.
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Yeah that's all you really need. But with a long winter and when you're bitten with the modding bug, there's always more ;)
 
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