slight play in drive shaft??

Location
Haiti
While riding yesterday I felt a new vibration. From a dead stop if I punched the throttle I felt a slight loss in power.if I revved up slow it was much better but full throttle still felt weak with a high free vibration. After pulling the ski out I checked the pump for any junk. Nothing in the pump (besides a small fish in the intake grate!!!). While moving the prop I noticed a small play in the shaft. Its not a lateral play but rotational instead. I can grab the shaft a d rotate it left and right a few degrees. I don't think this is normal I have never felt it before. Checked on another ski and it has no play at all. What could cause this, and is it the cause for my apparent lack of power??
 
I am not a technician, but in my experience it could be the splines on the drive shaft where it meets the hull or play in your coupler. Check the rubber dampener (easy thing to do).
 

natymatty

Visit ski-innovations.com
Location
Reno
Bearings

Yes and also check pump bearings and mid shaft bearings, they mite be almost seazing when u give it gas so that will give you the lack of power. Thats my 2 cents.

~Matty!
 
Location
Haiti
no play in the coupler, alignment is good too. Worn splines would make sense but how does that happen??

Also how do I check the midshaft bearings. I'm assuming ill have to drop the pump so I'll get started on that. But once I'm in there what should I look for?
 

oxnard111

Creative RE Purchasing
worn splines are caused by improper alignment of any portion of the drive train (engine, midshaft, or pump). Also with all the on/off of the throttle that is so common when riding standups, the splines just start to wear.

If you are going to replace splines you must do both the mid shaft and drive shaft at the same time other wise one will just wear the out very quickly. Both SuperJett and I can attest to this.
 
Location
Haiti
ok if i replace pump bearings, and leave the shaft and midshaft as is with the slight play (assuming worn splines) how does that sound. I'll recheck my engine alignment cause it was most likely the cause (replaced engine mounts about a month ago). Can i keep running it with the slightly worn splines. until i get a new shaft/midshaft. New years weekend is a big riding weekend here and i don't want to miss it. I doubt ill have time to have a new shaft/midhsaft delivered!!
 

SXIPro

JM781 Big Bore
My vote is for the midshaft bearings. That is just what I experienced moments before I pulled the ski ashore and found ball bearings in the bottom of the hull. Never a good sign. :smashfreakB:
 
Location
Haiti
so final verdict... as per my assumtions

heavy vibration from completely busted prop (pics to come soon) coupled with slightly misaligned engine resulted in worn out midshaft bearing. mishaft and drive shaft splines took a good beating (hence slight play). pump bearings are still perfect.

parts to be replaced:
midshaft
midshaft bearing
drive shaft
prop

all adds up to a pretty penny!!
 

oxnard111

Creative RE Purchasing
so final verdict... as per my assumtions

heavy vibration from completely busted prop (pics to come soon) coupled with slightly misaligned engine resulted in worn out midshaft bearing. mishaft and drive shaft splines took a good beating (hence slight play). pump bearings are still perfect.

parts to be replaced:
midshaft
midshaft bearing
drive shaft
prop

all adds up to a pretty penny!!

yup... prop might be salvageable. but we'll see when you post pictures... IMPROS can do wonders.

Best to look for a good condition midshaft assembly, being sure to ask the seller to inspect the female spline section closely.

Good luck finding just a drive shaft alone that has good splines. Maybe one of the FX-1 guys doing a 144 pump conversion can hook you up. They don't need the shafts on from the 144 pumps.
 
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Location
Haiti
ski is an 2004. i'll be keeping an eye out for those parts until i'm ready to order. already got a new prop, i'll be sending the old one out for repair after new years.
uplaoding prop pics now...hughes net upload speeds SUCK
 
Location
Haiti
nice looking prop huh...

CIMG1690.jpg
 
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