Studding A Tire Tutorial

[623pwr]

Thats cool, sounds pretty hard core!!

I hate blowing shocks. 180 bucks down the drain. Ive heard you can try to pack the seal with grease to get you by, just add a little bit of oil or just change the oil.

I did that on my cr 250 when i was broke from racing d23 all season. Got some redline fork oil and packed the seals with some Ams Oil Grease. It lasted about a year but had minor leaking, extremely light (band-aid)

Back in 03, kind if like Al Bundy holding back the invisible football. My glory years, Im getting old man!! Now I just ride so I dont get stressed out from work. I just turned 40 this year.

 

[623pwr]

Sorry i was thinking forks not rear shock, stupid me. Is Decker at Enzo still around or Clayton at Pro Action? Billy Edmonson from Power Band is pretty good too (Race Tech). You Could prob send it out to one if them?

The weather isnt that good right now,
so I doubt you'll miss much. Sorry to hear about the set back.

 

[Schmidty721]

I work with Matt stavish at check point off road. I'll pull it after this weekend and send it out. No biggie

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[623pwr]

That's good, just a pain. Probably better now then at Millville or some other place. If i find some ice tracks around here ill let you know. By your video it looks like you guys have it pretty well figured out.

 

[Schmidty721]

That was back at my parents on Madison lake. Our ride area now isn't nearly as big but we still get close to a mile track laid out.

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[623pwr]

Nice, thats pretty impressive. Cool you have a spot and some buddies to ride with.

 

[airport joe]

We had problems with rear shocks, shaft/shock get hot from riding, you stop moisture freezes on shaft. When you got home and put bikes in heated shop, shock fluid would run out until shock warmed up. A friend built some wool covers we run over our shocks if it works I'd like to think so, maybe it just soaks up the fluid?? 623pwr a 3 hour is a riot find a buddy n sign up for one, a lot of teams swap out rider every 20-45min, depending on how much your lap times fall off. We use to drive down to Isanti, MN and do the John Larson Memorial, if the course gets small in length they turn into a real war zone.

 

[623pwr]

Great tip on the rear shock! Sounds like a cool race, probably way out of shape for that one though.

 

[badvinny]

Minimizing the amount of snow/ice near fork and shock seals is key, keep the mudflap between the tire and shock in 100% condition as they often get shredded up by the studs.
Our weather went from -25c to +3c for the last week, the ice is mush and the snow is melting so we have more than 2 weeks of waiting for ice once it gets back to -20c, dammit!

 

[623pwr]

Ill keep that in mind. The lake has a layer of water over the ice. I'll take your advice Vinny, and hold off till it freezes again.

 

[badvinny]

We pretty much don't get a track unless we plow the snow off it, keep in mind I must have 12" of ice to put a vehicle on it!

 

[623pwr]

I agree, not worth driving on it! 6" to 8" around this area. Glare ice now with a puddle on top. We haven't had much snow this year in MN so far.

 

[StandupWI]

What do you guys typically do to your suspension for ice? I have just been cranking down the dampeners the last few years, but I recently had my suspension set up for wood riding to better suit the harescrambles in the summer. I have an extra set of suspension I have been debating having lowered and swapping every season. Just wondered what everyone else does.

 

[Schmidty721]

I had actually purchased a second set for my RM to set up specifically for the ice, but when it showed up is was KYB components and not Showa as advertised from an 06 RM so I sent the crap back.

I also has "woods" type setup on my 250, although it is fairly aggressive for woods being an "A" rider.
I've found that I need to slow the rear rebound down about 3 clicks from my woods setup on the rear. I haven't tounched rebound on the forks.
I'm in 2 click on the slow speed compression and a 1/4 on the high speed on the rear as well. This seems to keep the bike settled in the corner especially when rolling on and off the throttle. I like it to squat and stay where it is, but you still need it quick enough to absorb the acceleration and breaking chatter when the ice gets rough.

For TT style tracks the suspension guys I spoke with only recommended going down about 1". I'm 5'11 so anything shorter would start to feel cramped.
Valving wise it sounded like they keep the first part of the stroke fairly soft and quick and stiffen up the middle part of the stroke. I believe the theory is to let the bike squat and then be stable. Makes sense

 

[badvinny]

My 500exc has the suspension revalved and sprung for supermoto, no lowering. It does not need any adjustments to go to iceracing, just a couple laps to get the oil warmed up.
I do run a very firm setup, it really shines when the speed is over 50mph and it gets very stable, our track regularly has up to 100mph sections. Normal motocross or softer suspension starts to feel 'wet noodle' and unstable after 50mph.

 

[airport joe]

I have Davey Durelle supermoto suspension that's lowered 1", used it on the ice for some ovals and TT races. For 3 hours I run mx suspension, I have teamed up on a bike with enduro suspension set up and liked it. We run pretty slow rebound, it improves traction

 

[623pwr]

Sweet photos Vinny! That's cool that you tweak the shock lower.

Got half of my free ride wheel done. Just 5/8" studs (stocker 450 set up). The 5/8" studs are pretty beefy looking compared to the 1/2" studs.

250 is almost done too. Waiting on a throttle cable, then mount the carb. Probably should of sent out the head, but just replaced a valve. Hope it runs good??

Ice is looking pretty sweet. 50's turned to 15 degrees. Cold a@@ day today cutting out brick (got to warm up a lot though so it was good) , but its making ice, so its all good.

Its that time of the year, i better get used to it.

 

[623pwr]

The ice on Tonka is looking really good. Hope the snow holds off, be nice to get out on the weekend.

Excelsior MN - Lake Minnetonka.

 

[Schmidty721]

 

[airport joe]

How sweet it is, show up and ride, no plowing snow for 2 hours only to ride for 1 hour.