sunk my brand new 2015 WDK rip...she gone

dmpus

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I don't get all this science with the buoyancy, noodles etc..
Foam is not a bad thing. If ski has been built and sealed correctly, it will take 10 years before foam gets water logged unless you keep it in the water at all times. Just a fact, all new glass Rickters have foam in their trays. They bob with their tray up just like squarenoses and kawi SXR, but dont sink like a rock.
 
Ducky

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Roseand said:
What? A superjet with a full engine bay of water still floats.

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You said "Stock skis with waterlogged foam still float" and I said yes, they float....until they start taking on water like crazy and then they go down like a sack of potatoes
 
Roseand

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Ducky said:
You said "Stock skis with waterlogged foam still float" and I said yes, they float....until they start taking on water like crazy and then they go down like a sack of potatoes
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You've witnessed this first hand.. ?

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Lumpy

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Roseand said:
Yeah, lucky you. Wakezone is done with skis for new customers. Absolutely sucks for the rest of us.

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I wasn't talking about insurance although having it is nice. I bought a membership to our local watersports club so that I can leave my truck right next to shore and ride from there without a no wake zone in sight. Hoping next year I can get some of the wakeboarders to throw some wakes for me.
 
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Roseand said:
You've witnessed this first hand.. ?

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Yea, my RN with waterlogged foam floated like a normal jetski....

But if it took on water where the exhaust popped off, or the hood came off, she woulda gone down quick.

I dont think you are understanding what I am saying.
 
Roseand

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Ducky said:
Yea, my RN with waterlogged foam floated like a normal jetski....

But if it took on water where the exhaust popped off, or the hood came off, she woulda gone down quick.

I dont think you are understanding what I am saying.
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I've seen waterlogged foam superjets completely filled with water still just barely bobbing on /underneath the surface, but they didn't completely sink

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Roseand

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Ducky said:
Also, there are plenty of other insurance companies than wakezone that will insure a jetski....
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Find one that covers theft and sinking, etc. and doesn't cost an arm and a leg then and enlighten us all.

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Lumpy

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I think what Matt is saying is that any ski, foamed or not, will float until you fill it up with water. After that, all bets are off.
 
Roseand

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Lumpy said:
I think what Matt is saying is that any ski, foamed or not, will float until you fill it up with water. After that, all bets are off.
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Well no duh, that's not at all what any of this thread has been about. It's about a ski sinking to the bottom when it was full of water..

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Lumpy

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Roseand said:
Find one that covers theft and sinking, etc. and doesn't cost an arm and a leg then and enlighten us all.

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I'd have to look closer at my policy, but I believe if your exhaust hose pops off and your ski goes down, wakezone won't cover it. I'm gonna double check that right meow.
 
Lumpy

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Roseand said:
Well no duh, that's not at all what any of this thread has been about. It's about a ski sinking to the bottom when it was full of water..

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I think you missed his sarcasm. I had a fully waterlogged round nose and believe that given the chance, it would have went down.
 
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I had a RN without watterlogged foam that filled with water... A boat stopped by to help and the they hooked a rope around the handle pole and tried dredging the lake with it for 5 minutes as they towed it back to the cabin :confused:. I was at the shore and notice the girl was in the boat that I borrowed it to. I asked where the ski was and she said behind the boat. About a minute later it surfaced and only the very tip of the nose would occasionally surface. I'm not sure it would came up if it had water logged foam.
 
chadman154

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Roseand said:
Did you factor in the buoyancy of the composite layup? What about the padding/turf used in the tray, etc. There's a ton of other variables, nearly impossible to calculate exactly what you need, so your best bet is being overkill or testing it yourself. In this case, it's realistic to fit approximately 10 pool noodles, I don't know what length the ones I have are.
Sounds to me like pool noodles aren't real buoyant from that experiment, but it'd still be interesting to test. But, like I said, they at least cause some displacement and buoyancy allowing for it to maybe be realistic to hang onto it as it's sinking.
I'd like to compare the buoyancy between noodles, EPS/EPP, and 2 part. It's always possible to make a mold to pour 2 part in to stuff into areas in an open bulkhead ski if it's that much more buoyant. Then if it ever becomes wet, you can replace it rather than cut open a whole ski.. EPS style foam is a mess since it's easy to crumble and cut cleaning, making it easy to clog versiplugs and such.

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Rosie just buy like 3000 ping pong balls and fill the entire hull full up to the hood seal, problem solved. Or just go ride and dont worry bout it :)
 
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Im sure @chadman154 and I could cough up some money for ping pong balls, but you have to fill up your whole ski to the tippy top, and never remove them even when you are working on your ski.
 
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