Superjet handleing, Alittle disapointed....

[SXIPro]

I actually found my Kawi much scarier/squirrelier on the top end than my SJ. The Yami never tries to toss me.

Maybe I'm weird. :Banane13:

 

[spazzit]

i have that prob with my fx1 3/4 thottle and she wants to walk.


hold on its more fun :splatt:

 

[ger87410]

Going fast in a straight line is for couches. :ugh:

 

[nokfir]

i went from a 550 to 650 to 750 to sj.......the sj handles a million times better than all of those and is amazing in the surf. i had no prob getting on the sj and getting used to it. i dont see any problem, ride it around for a while and ull love the way it turns. the sj doesnt even seem quirly at all compared to the 750, and the kawi would ALWAYS toss me, so im not sure what ur rtalkgin about lol.

 

[Zeon]

i went from a 550 to 650 to 750 to sj.......the sj handles a million times better than all of those and is amazing in the surf. i had no prob getting on the sj and getting used to it. i dont see any problem, ride it around for a while and ull love the way it turns. the sj doesnt even seem quirly at all compared to the 750, and the kawi would ALWAYS toss me, so im not sure what ur rtalkgin about lol.

SAME WITH ME. I have yet to like anything but a superjet since!

 

[weston]

Between the x community, anything can be found out. You guys know it all!
Im just looking over my fx-1 trying to get a few parts cleaned up/replaced and that factory exhaust just looks so puny compared to the pics i see around here.

I have a bpipe with the a sj mod chamber in my fx1 and it rips just make sure you mod you cdi without the csi mod the pipeis just eye candy

 

[spazzit]

Going fast in a straight line is for couches. :ugh:

hahaha true 3/4 mile ride out inlet for waves gotta get there fast:burnout:

 

[jetpilot08]

bpipe + msd enhancer + ada head = one big fing smile on your face!

As far as steering goes look into the x metal steering set up..i love mine :love:

 

[bluebyusj01]

Well it seems to be straight, but i have noticed it pulls alittle to the left at higher speeds. I need to look into that and make sure its adjusted right. It looked straight while i was at the lake but i only took a quik glance. Thanks

 

[ksarge91]

I recently put a B-pipe in my wifes sj. I could'nt believe the improvement in throttle response & bottom end. (tuned for surf). It pisses me off cause I have stock exhaust in my sj still. Saving up.

How'd that one happen??? The wife gets the brap?

The superjet takes a little getting used too. It turns flat unlike the kawi's which you can really dig and carve effortlessly. The superjet can dig to though. Just takes some work. Put alot of pressure on the foot on the side of the boat the same as the direction you want to turn and it'll stay hooked up. (left turn = press down left foot) As for the problems at WOT, Sometimes my SJ hucks me, but usually when it starts to chine walk I can keep it under control as long as I stay on the throttle. Once you let off the throttle the boats gonna vere off in another direction and you're going to go straight. Once you get used to it you'll know what all the hype is about though.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

The wandering at WOT is actually called seeking. All stand-up skis do it after about 46-48 mph. It's just because the hull is so narrow. If you look at the gear case on an outboard, they have an adjustable direction correcting tab under the stabilizer fin. It's to true up the straight line when at WOT because most of the hull is out of the water and you're left with that little narrow gear case for the control. I would think a ride plate with fins would help to counter that with your ski but not sure how they would affect the freestylin.

 

[ski4]

The wandering at WOT is actually called seeking. All stand-up skis do it after about 46-48 mph. It's just because the hull is so narrow. If you look at the gear case on an outboard, they have an adjustable direction correcting tab under the stabilizer fin. It's to true up the straight line when at WOT because most of the hull is out of the water and you're left with that little narrow gear case for the control. I would think a ride plate with fins would help to counter that with your ski but not sure how they would affect the freestylin.

i thought that was to help straighten out the ride due to prop rotation? and as a sacrificial piece?

 

[WFO Speedracer]

I know what you are referring to as far as the handling being funky,the only two superjets I have ridden that handled worth a crap so far are Gils ski and Wild Bills ski.

 

[ger87410]

How'd that one happen??? The wife gets the brap?

:haha:No kidding. :wink:

The superjet takes a little getting used too. It turns flat unlike the kawi's which you can really dig and carve effortlessly. The superjet can dig to though. Just takes some work. Put alot of pressure on the foot on the side of the boat the same as the direction you want to turn and it'll stay hooked up. (left turn = press down left foot) As for the problems at WOT, Sometimes my SJ hucks me, but usually when it starts to chine walk I can keep it under control as long as I stay on the throttle. Once you let off the throttle the boats gonna vere off in another direction and you're going to go straight. Once you get used to it you'll know what all the hype is about though.

In my experience with my SN, you try to turn flat and you'll get thrown off. When I take tight turns I almost have to lean till I touch.

I will say this about my SN: it was easier to throw around then a 90s 750sx.

 

[FlightPlanDan]

How'd that one happen??? The wife gets the brap?

The superjet takes a little getting used too. It turns flat unlike the kawi's which you can really dig and carve effortlessly. The superjet can dig to though. Just takes some work. Put alot of pressure on the foot on the side of the boat the same as the direction you want to turn and it'll stay hooked up. (left turn = press down left foot) As for the problems at WOT, Sometimes my SJ hucks me, but usually when it starts to chine walk I can keep it under control as long as I stay on the throttle. Once you let off the throttle the boats gonna vere off in another direction and you're going to go straight. Once you get used to it you'll know what all the hype is about though.

I know, it sux, but her stock exhaust corroded and was leaking, and mine was still o.k. I'll have a pipe this season.

 

[vjhardcore]

I just got an 07 SJ last year after a few years of riding a 650sx. With only about 8 hours on my SJ I still find its a huge learning curve, its alomost like starting over? I love it, I think....but it's going to take some getting use to.

 

[Idok]

The wandering at WOT is actually called seeking. All stand-up skis do it after about 46-48 mph. It's just because the hull is so narrow. If you look at the gear case on an outboard, they have an adjustable direction correcting tab under the stabilizer fin. It's to true up the straight line when at WOT because most of the hull is out of the water and you're left with that little narrow gear case for the control. I would think a ride plate with fins would help to counter that with your ski but not sure how they would affect the freestylin.

never heard that before...






I have always heard and used the term "chine walking" in reference to skis and big powerboats

 

[klze]

I went from super couch streight to SN 650 with high head and coffman pipe,
been riding it 1 hour so far and by now can only stand on my knees :Banane09:

the learning curve from couch is just crazy, but i love the feeling for some reason, i guess i want to real freestyle riding overall :ugh:

 

[Pro-pulsion]

never heard that before...I have always heard and used the term "chine walking" in reference to skis and big powerboats

Yeah, I wasn't totally sure what it was called for the longest time, I'm pretty sure chine walking is when you see the boat bounce from left to right...sorta like a speed wobble for race bikes. Usually you see that on those ridiculously high powered hydroplanes :bigok: (LOVE the hydroplane races) But when a ski just sorta starts to drift and not hold a straight line, and you're finding that the only cure is hard body english, then your ski is seeking.

http://www.groupk.com/k650.htm under handling...

Regardless of which parts are used, the Hammer will still be somewhat difficult to control at very high speeds. Even the best stock SX hulls will begin to "seek" at speeds over 46 mph. "Seeking" is the point at which the handlebars no longer control the true direction that the boat is traveling in. Safe steering beyond this speed is done with body english and proper weight transfer. While hull truing may improve this handling situation, it cannot eliminate it.

 

[Pro-pulsion]

i thought that was to help straighten out the ride due to prop rotation? and as a sacrificial piece?

It's true, it does work with correction to the prop, that's partially what I was aiming at there :biggthumpup: For all intensive purposes though, when you have a hull mostly out of the water, the gearcase is all that's left controlling the handling and without some sort of compensation to keep the straight line things would get real squirrely real fast. The only sacrificial parts on a boat gearcase are the anodes. They take up any abuse through the water before the gearcase such as electrolysis. I've seen outboards not need that tab moved from true straight before, just depends on the hull.