Superjet no start no click

Hello at the begging of the summer blew the top end on my round nose Superjet. Over the the summer I resealed the motor and replaced the top end. Now that it comes together I am having some issues. When clicking the start button I get no noises. The only way I can get it to turn over is when I jump the solenoid. Luckily enough I have a square nose and I have switched every single electrical part from the square to the round. Other that’s the power cables. Full ebox with start/stop still nothing on the round nose. But square nose does just fine and runs/ turns over etc with round nose parts. I’ve tried different spots for the grounds and batteries I know are good. Still only way I can get it to do anything with either ebox is by jumping the solenoid. Any insight would be great. Thank you.
 

WFO Speedracer

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Try running a new temporary ground wire from the ground post on the battery to a grounding screw in the electrical box , the black wire on the stator supplies the system ground for the entire ski, if it's bad nothing will work , the other common mistake is putting the positive battery cable on the wrong solenoid post , the ski picks up system power for the whole ski off of that solenoid post , you should have eleminated that one already by swapping out the electrical boxes .

Everyone else go back and read what he wrote , he has changed out everything between the two skis , by process of elimination that only leaves the wiring harness and the stator on the engine . WFO35 is probably the closest in figuring out what is going on here .
 
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Try running a new temporary ground wire from the ground post on the battery to a grounding screw in the electrical box , the black wire on the stator supplies the system ground for the entire ski, if it's bad nothing will work , the other common mistake is putting the positive battery cable on the wrong solenoid post , the ski picks up system power for the whole ski off of that solenoid post , you should have eleminated that one already by swapping out the electrical boxes .

Everyone else go back and read what he wrote , he has changed out everything between the two skis , by process of elimination that only leaves the wiring harness and the stator on the engine . WFO35 is probably the closest in figuring out what is going on here .
I did the ground jumper after switching everything else out. It turned over, that’s when I pulled flywheel cover and discovered my problem.
 
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I did the ground jumper after switching everything else out. It turned over, that’s when I pulled flywheel cover and discovered my problem.
Thank you. I will try this when I get home from work. Makes sense for it to be stator due to checking and swapping everything but that.
 

Big Kahuna

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Did you replace the ground wire from the Starter to the battery? Did you swap Starters?
If you are not getting the "Click" of the Solenoid then you have it wired backwards or the wire that provides power to it is not connected or grounded. Stator has nothing to do with the start circuit.
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
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Also, check your fuse

Did you replace the ground wire from the Starter to the battery? Did you swap Starters?
If you are not getting the "Click" of the Solenoid then you have it wired backwards or the wire that provides power to it is not connected or grounded. Stator has nothing to do with the start circuit.
Actually it does , the ground for the entire electrical system with the exception of the starter comes through that tiny black stator wire , you are partially correct if the ground cable is bad you won't have a ground period , the positive and negative cables are for high amperage , which means the starter , everything else on the starter circuit is low amperage and works off the small black ground wire and the small red wire from the hot side of solenoid .

The way I diagnose bad battery cables is simple, I use jumper cables , go from the battery negative post to a good place that will ground on the engine, head bolt , exhaust bolt etc , if it cranks now , bad negative cable , jumper from the battery positive post to the hot side of the solenoid , that would be the side the positive cable is hooked to , if it cranks now bad positive cable , jumper from the negative battery post to the ground screw in the electrical box , if it cranks now bad ground wire on the stator .


I chased this issue down on a Waveventure 1100 that had an intermittent starting issue , it turns out someone cross -threaded the top starter bolt that holds the negative cable onto the crankcase , it felt like it was tight but actually it wasn't , sometimes it made a connection , sometimes it didn't. Regardless it was an easy thing to find using my method explained above .
 
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Pull the leads off your starter solenoid, put 12v across it and see if it closes the starter solenoid.
Pull your ebox apart and start testing everything, making sure all your grounds are tight.
 
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