Surf rolls!

[IWannaYama]

So I'm privileged enough to ride with a great group of guys here in south florida who all have different styles of riding. What I have noticed, when it comes to barrel rolls, is that there are 2 very distinct ways of doing them. One of them I don't even think classifies as a roll, but I could be wrong..
In one pic, my buddy @dmpus does a "roll" with the nose very high up.
Other pic shows the nose down roll, which imo looks more likes its rotating on an axis.
I know a lot of it has to do with body position, wave selection, timing, etc. as well as type of ski, position of footholds, etc. I do know my buddy went from a sj, to vision, to currently an edge and its always nose high. That takes the ski out of equation and leaves the rider. I guess my question is what defines an actual barrel roll, and what looks the best
@Proformance1
imo the orange ski is the one doing a proper roll. Correct me if I am wrong

 

[Big Kahuna]

If the Tail rotates around the nose then that is just a modified helicopter or flat 360 on an angle. A True Roll the ski rolls 360 degrees on its longitudinal axis. Does not matter if the nose is high or low. Your body must do the rotation. At one point, the ski needs to be up and you under the ski in relation to the water.

 

[motozachl]

Keeping ski completely parallel to water is preferred IMO

 

[Proformance1]

As we discussed, the hull set up, rider position, plus the way you leave the wave as far as timing goes all play a part in it. If you hit at the apex of the curl its harder, at least for me not to nose up. Right before the lip is max height and still get the roll on axis. FYI after market hulls seem to tail whip more. Same with flat water. A stock SJ BR perferfectly for me, a Freak/KDX/DVX not so much.

 

[Big Kahuna]

You are correct on some AM Hulls do more of a Tail Whip. KDX's do them this way. I did get a few nice rolls on Sanoman's Havoc and it rolled really nice on axis.

 

[Jr.]

Here is a sequence shot Ronny Mac took of me several years ago.
Kind of gives you the idea?

 

[IWannaYama]

You are correct on some AM Hulls do more of a Tail Whip. KDX's do them this way. I did get a few nice rolls on Sanoman's Havoc and it rolled really nice on axis.

Is that a FW boat ?


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[dmpus]

How about more time shredding, less time analyzing over the keyboard..

 

[IWannaYama]

How about more time shredding, less time analysis over the keyboard..

@dmpus is the green ski that looks like he's shooting to the sky haha. Come over and help with this spring instead of stalking me on the x!


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[tightithrash]

As we discussed, the hull set up, rider position, plus the way you leave the wave as far as timing goes all play a part in it. If you hit at the apex of the curl its harder, at least for me not to nose up. Right before the lip is max height and still get the roll on axis. FYI after market hulls seem to tail whip more. Same with flat water. A stock SJ BR perferfectly for me, a Freak/KDX/DVX not so much.

Dat Justin Sylvain dvx roll doe.

 

[SpaceCowboy]

Dat Justin Sylvain dvx roll doe.

He can roll anything!

 

[Waveblaster785]

A stock SJ BR perferfectly for me, a Freak/KDX/DVX not so much.

My freak rolls really flat for me. It's all body position.

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[Big Kahuna]

Is that a FW boat ?


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Yes.

 

[shaunsteezy]

a snail trail of roost is a good indication of a proper roll.

 

[Mcarp6]

Like a friend told me ..... Do whatever you feel is right because there is no correct form in "Freeride". You do your tricks how you want.


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[IWannaYama]

im wondering how much of a difference it would make waiting until you're leaving the wave before hucking it? Also, i think the folks that lean their weight directly to their side VS leaning towards where the fuel cap would be, makes lot of the difference in determining where the nose goes.. I just need to get more inverted. Here is what my "roll" looks like (Forward to 1:40)

 

[Jet_jase]

For me i think pulling my feet up when i roll keeps my boat nice and flat, Loads of guys i ride with do nose high rolls and the land ass heavy and rarely ride out. That said pulling my feet speeds up my rotation so end up over rotating off a bigger wave. Tried some surf stance rolls recently and they are much harder, think i've ridden out of 1 so far.

 

[jagerauto]

Well I have no idea what to do but I did this on accident I was just trying to nose stab. It was windy and the wave peaked on me..

 

[erik mx45]

Well I have no idea what to do but I did this on accident I was just trying to nose stab. It was windy and the wave peaked on me..

isnt this were you almost drown!

 

[jagerauto]

No there is another video of me gasping for air haha