The Transformer Era

Lol yeah it's different. I'm not sure if I like it or not. It's the square cut edges all over the place on most of these things and trying to make everything look like it's angry because it had a pinecone dump and the pinecone came out sideways o_O
 
I actually like the way the 21 looks. They finally made it out of demand not desperation. Why spend money decorating something that sells itself? This way we can make them look like any angry gangster bug we want. Win win
 
So, y'all are just now realizing everything made after the year 2000 is garbage? haha

My question is, if Honda can produce the same XR650L for 28 years, how come Toyota doesn't have a truck worth a $hit anymore... Bring back the pickup! You know, back when a truck looked like a truck? :cool:

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Big Kahuna

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So, y'all are just now realizing everything made after the year 2000 is garbage? haha

My question is, if Honda can produce the same XR650L for 28 years, how come Toyota doesn't have a truck worth a $hit anymore... Bring back the pickup! You know, back when a truck looked like a truck? :cool:

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Just gonna leave this right here!
 
It's true that the majority of vehicles haven't been awesome looking for a long time, personally I prefer the looks of trucks from the 60's and 70's. Those body styles had style. The only truck that really caught my attention over the last 2 decades would be the gen 2 Tundra which is partially why I bought mine. It still looks like a truck but it for some reason has a front end design that reminds me of the early to mid 2000's Yamaha muscle craft skis. The side view has some very reminiscent lines to say a 2000's GPR's side view appearance, when a truck can have some similarities to a nice looking ski, it has won most of the battle in my preferences lol. What really seems to have triggered it though was the introduction of the Transformers movie. It seems like the year after that movie was released, almost everybody out there started making their products look like Transformers lol.

What you were saying about Toyota's quality caving, I fully agree. I had to work out a lot of gremlins in my Tundra that were inherent manufacturing flaws, flaws that really should have been Toyota's to correct regardless of age when they knew about the design flaws. My truck has seen 3 water pumps in the 5 years I have owned it, it's a 2009. Who knows how many prior to that. The rear diff had to be fully rebuilt from a known design flaw but I ate the bill on it to the tune of $3500.00! Sometimes extended aftermarket warranties are worth the hassle lol. Out of my own budget though I had to replace the front diff due to design flaws, the rear drive shaft, rear leaf spring packs and do the best I could for repairing the box rot...which wouldn't have happened if they didn't use a seam sealer around the 4 support pads and just bolted the box to them with a gasket. The seam sealer allowed water to seep in but it couldn't evaporate out so it just sat trapped in there and rotted out all 4 pad mount locations.

I'm hoping this new Tundra that has been in the R&D for the last 7 or so years will be the tipping point to bring back quality. They've been testing and refining it all this time to work out any immediate and long term bugs. For once they're actually trying to make that unicorn bulletproof reliable truck.
 

Vumad

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St. Pete, FL
I think it was popular mechanics where I read an article that covered the impact of wind tunnels and EPA requirements on car design. Why all cars now look the same and why so few have any meaningful style. We can't have cars like we did in the 80s because of these. I can't think of any better example of this than what happened to the corvette from 1970-2000 where the just kept smooshing the style out of it.

It's cyclical though. Someone will figure out how to use more circles when the current aggressive style become white noise.
 
So, y'all are just now realizing everything made after the year 2000 is garbage? haha

My question is, if Honda can produce the same XR650L for 28 years, how come Toyota doesn't have a truck worth a $hit anymore... Bring back the pickup! You know, back when a truck looked like a truck? :cool:

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That’s why I’m keeping my Nissan Xterra, Yamaha TW200 and square nose. Function over form, ugly but bulletproof.
 
You guys are right! The TW200 has been made since 1987 and nearly the same since it was in 1987 (except front discs now and a few other changes) and the XR650L has been unchanged since 1993. These are BULLETPROOF machines and I own vouch for that, I own them, and some of my friends saw how great they are and they also bought TW's and XR's as well and they love them. I'll stick with that kind of stuff rather than angry, faux "tough" wanna be modern stuff.
 
Angry plastic disposable transportation unit! Oh so angry, it's so intimidating that it demands that you look at it and ooooh and ahhh over how stupid it is! LOL!
 
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