Tips for novice bouy rider.

I have started to mess around with buoy riding and am finding that my left turns are way better and more aggressive than my right hand turns. Also I tend to sink the nose on right handers. I have been trying switch stance for the turns but finding it difficult with my right foot forward. I know the stock answer is more tray time but, does anyone have any helpful training and riding tips?
 
Switching stance is definitely the way to go. Like you said, tray time is the key to getting used to it. or you could forget switching stance and just leg drag ;) I find that way harder to do at speed than switching my stance. It looks cooler though.
 
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bird

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Practice figure 8s or circles going left. You can practice lean angles and approaches, vary the throttle, use your legs/feet to turn at a constant throttle position. Isolate how each body input affects the ski's turning.

I ride varying my stance on my SXR. Leg Drags are a confidence thing. I can leg drag left to right without stepping back into the tray.
You can also keep your feet far up in the tray side by side, this works well for trying to get the ski to spin on it's center axis.
 

SkiPro

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Always be looking out in front of you,(keeping your head up) never down at the ski or just in front of it. When i first started out my uncle gave me this tip and it helped alot.
Just keep it up, looking straight out to where you can bearly see your ski in your vision.
 

Vumad

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Make sure you ski is setup properly. My used SXR had a side exhaust that kept the ski from turning right, but resolved when I removed the outlet cover. My superjet turned better right and slid out left, and left is my strong side, but after I put a weight under my pipe to counter my battery, then I could turn much much better.

Different things can affect your turning. Imbalanced ski, poorly adjusted steering, objects that cause drag. Ensure these are not problems.

It sounds like your problem is your style. Turning toe side is the best way to do a turn sub, which you are doing. You definitely need to switch stance and turn heal side to be more aggressive in the corners (although you should practice toe side too as you may not have time to switch in stacked corners). You should barely be able to see the front of the ski if at all, and be looking at the bouy after the one you are turning at.
 

SUPERJET-113

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Replace the stock SXR handle pole as soon as you can, they are junk, they crack, and break real easy when you are hammering on buoys. Its the same pole that was designed for the 750sx in 1992, and they are exactly built the same on all SXR years(shame on you KAWI).

I used to race a lot in the early/mid 90's and was sponsored by Team Butch for quite awhile and have broke and repaired a lot of those crappy poles before they made after market ones for the 750 stand ups. One time it broken down by the bracket bolt going around a tight buoy corner on a LTD team Butch 94' 750sx. The ski rear end slid around me and my hand went crashing into the side of the ski and jammed my finger so bad like you wouldnt believe... I also slammed my head on the side of the hood, but helmet saved that lol. They like to crack down the sides at the top and down by the bracket bolt...

Please just keep a eye on it and replace as soon as your can! Have fun man!
 
Thanks for that info! My ski has an AC aluminum pole on it so I'm good there. I'm also running the ProWaterCraft Racing front sponsons. As for ride plate and grate I'm using R&D items. I would like to try the TBM plate and the Skat Trak scoop grate.

That is so cool that you raced for Team Butch. Those are my favorite skis. I put Butch's ski shop decals on all my skis. I went out this evening and worked on technique more. I'm getting there slowly but surely.


Here is a video from my second time out with buoys. Being chased and getting tired then passed. This was before trying switching stance.

Thanks for all the input guys!



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Big Kahuna

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Replace the stock SXR handle pole as soon as you can, they are junk, they crack, and break real easy when you are hammering on buoys. Its the same pole that was designed for the 750sx in 1992, and they are exactly built the same on all SXR years(shame on you KAWI).

I used to race a lot in the early/mid 90's and was sponsored by Team Butch for quite awhile and have broke and repaired a lot of those crappy poles before they made after market ones for the 750 stand ups. One time it broken down by the bracket bolt going around a tight buoy corner on a LTD team Butch 94' 750sx. The ski rear end slid around me and my hand went crashing into the side of the ski and jammed my finger so bad like you wouldnt believe... I also slammed my head on the side of the hood, but helmet saved that lol. They like to crack down the sides at the top and down by the bracket bolt...

Please just keep a eye on it and replace as soon as your can! Have fun man!
Raced my Stock SXR with Stock Pole for 4 years with no issues.
 

Big Kahuna

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Thanks for that info! My ski has an AC aluminum pole on it so I'm good there. I'm also running the ProWaterCraft Racing front sponsons. As for ride plate and grate I'm using R&D items. I would like to try the TBM plate and the Skat Trak scoop grate.

That is so cool that you raced for Team Butch. Those are my favorite skis. I put Butch's ski shop decals on all my skis. I went out this evening and worked on technique more. I'm getting there slowly but surely.


Here is a video from my second time out with buoys. Being chased and getting tired then passed. This was before trying switching stance.

Thanks for all the input guys!



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Ran bouys in that cove many a time!!!!!!!! Is that Brooke or Megan smoking you!!!!!!!!!!!!.... You coming to Alatoona saturday? I can give you some pointers if you want. May talk Paul into bringing the SXR out.
 
Yeah that's Megan. I ride with Paul every Sunday. Unfortunately I won't be riding Saturday. We are headed out of town for vacation. Let's ride soon though. I would love some input on how to ride better.


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bird

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Raced my Stock SXR with Stock Pole for 4 years with no issues.

My handlepole cracked in the first three months. Both sides up near the sub-plate mounting bolts.

I replaced it with an AC pole...that lasted for almost two seasons. The Sub-plate mount is a bent tube...weak stuff. It cracked from jumping/surf riding. Now I have a Billet RRP.
 

Big Kahuna

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My handlepole cracked in the first three months. Both sides up near the sub-plate mounting bolts.

I replaced it with an AC pole...that lasted for almost two seasons. The Sub-plate mount is a bent tube...weak stuff. It cracked from jumping/surf riding. Now I have a Billet RRP.
The SXR was designed for for Closed Course Racing. Not Surf riding. Dont know how many OEM SJ poles we cut, and reglued due to failure from surf riding. No Pole is going to last indefinate while surf riding and jumping.
 

bird

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We didn't know things wouldn't last forever @Big Kahuna I thought anything was possible.

If the SXR was designed for closed course racing, why wouldn't it have a shorter pole, cleaner pump tunnel, and an Off/on switch you can't hit with your knee? It was designed for a consumer that will neglect it at the lake house for the next 20+ years. You didn't race a stock boat, you raced in STOCK class.

The SXR was designed for for Closed Course Racing. Not Surf riding. Dont know how many OEM SJ poles we cut, and reglued due to failure from surf riding. No Pole is going to last indefinate while surf riding and jumping.
 

SUPERJET-113

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I swear I would just look wrong at those poles and they would break!

Its a whole different game on a SXR vs a 750sx on a buoy course..lol You had to basically drag(or close to it) your body across the top of water around turns, or leg drag. We had no front sponsons back then either. On a SXR its get down low in the pocket and turn and it hooks up and turns on a dime...You stay low and try to hang on while is turning or be thrown!
So I can see where a SXR may not be as brutal on the H pole as in the old days of the 750SX, but they are still pure garbage IMO.

My friend stores his SXR here at my house and I do the buoys on it once in awhile and I put a Xmetal pole on there for him as his was cracking down the sides near the top and down low by the bracket bolt. SXR is like a Caddilac on the buoy course compared to old skool days. I do love rippin up some buoys once in awhile on it though, very fun cornering machine.

I started racing in 1990 on a 650sx and you really had to ragdoll your body around the corners! That was brutal as hell.
 
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