Wanting opinion on superjet

[Themist456]

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I was wondering what your guys opinion on that 93 superjet I linked above. Is a 93 hull that much worse than a newer one etc. Also if possible just the reaction to what they say in the description and what i can expect out of it. Is a flip in decent wake possible? What is a fair price?

Thank you in advance!

 

[97superjet]

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I was wondering what your guys opinion on that 93 superjet I linked above. Is a 93 hull that much worse than a newer one etc. Also if possible just the reaction to what they say in the description and what i can expect out of it. Is a flip in decent wake possible? What is a fair price?

Thank you in advance!

Personally I would hold out for a better find, 96 and up tend to be the better hull but these are good starter skis, this would take a large wake to even think about flipping, if that’s your goal a superjet is a good ski to start riding with and all the running gear can be transferred into a lighter hull that will flip down the road, also it likely needs a start stop switch if those are the symptoms but who knows for sure until you check the ski out. Always compression test anything before you buy, always...

 

[brapperdoodle]

Yeah I love my squarenose but in all honesty I would have just bought a 96+ if I could do it all again. Don't get me wrong, the SN is an awesome ski but in the long run the RN had a few changes that I think made the ski much better. Plus the 93' and older SN had the smaller midshaft housing that might start becoming hard to find. I cant imagine doing a flip on my SN... It would take a big wave and even bigger cocoanuts to send it. Totally possible though!

 

[bored&stroked]

Very expensive for a SN. 760's had dual carb intakes, I'm willing to bet he put a 760 cylinder on the 61x cases instead of a single carb intake on it with the oem flame arrestor.
Oem ski's and flips are never something that go together without huge wakes/waves and a really good rider.
I loved my SN, only got rid of it because I like the looks of the RN better and got a screaming deal that basically made it a trade.

 

[Themist456]

Personally I would hold out for a better find, 96 and up tend to be the better hull but these are good starter skis, this would take a large wake to even think about flipping, if that’s your goal a superjet is a good ski to start riding with and all the running gear can be transferred into a lighter hull that will flip down the road, also it likely needs a start stop switch if those are the symptoms but who knows for sure until you check the ski out. Always compression test anything before you buy, always...

Understood. If I was going to get this one what would be a fair deal. AKA, I could get my money back I want something better? (I am mechanically inclined just don't know about hulls so I would make sure everything is in good shape).

 

[Themist456]

Very expensive for a SN. 760's had dual carb intakes, I'm willing to bet he put a 760 cylinder on the 61x cases instead of a single carb intake on it with the oem flame arrestor.
Oem ski's and flips are never something that go together without huge wakes/waves and a really good rider.
I loved my SN, only got rid of it because I like the looks of the RN better and got a screaming deal that basically made it a trade.

What is a fair price for a 96 and up (701) if I keep an eye out for one?

 

[97superjet]

What is a fair price for a 96 and up (701) if I keep an eye out for one?

Depends on overall condition really, I would want to be as close to 2k for this ski as possible, that way you could get your money back if you wanted. I think 3k for a nice square nose (pre 96) with a factory b pipe is fair in today’s market, most stock nice 96+ will start at 3500-4K and go up from there, I think most will be closer to 5 and up to be honest at this point

 

[kevbo]

There is not 3k worth of parts in that ski. Dumb kids have bid up the price of junk. If you found a nice $1000 hull, it would cost another 4K for a fresh engine, pump, prop, and pipe.

 

[E350]

Notice that no one in this thread gave you a link to an ad for a good ski to buy?

And that no one is this thread has offered to sell you their ski?

Looking in my local craigslist, there is one Kawi 750, one stock Super Jet 650 and a Kawi 550. And that's it. So there just aren't very many skis out there for sale.

Basic economics says scarcity increases the price. Govt printing more money flooding the economy with dollars devalues the value of each dollar resulting in price "inflation."

So, IMHO 97superjet is spot on he correct prices with where Biden inflation is now.

Depending if it runs great now, IMHO $2500 is a steal and $3000 could still be ok assuming that it does not need work. Don't wait for a '96-'07. They are becoming unicorns.

kevbo knows much more than me, but you likely know less than kevbo so while he could build a much better ski than you can buy with $5000 you likely couldn't build one for that money.

You want to learn to ride, not learn to work on your ski.

You will be forced to learn to work on your ski soon enough. So start with a good running ski and learn to ride. A SN is a fine ski to learn to ride. And keep your eyes out for a deal on a unicorn.

Forget about whether or not you lose money. You are losing time now by not riding. Riding is the point in this sport. Not saving money.

 

[SXIPro]

So.....when Trump gets back in in 2024, SJs will be like two for a dollar?

Personally I'd wait for a RN. I own both, a SN and an '04 RN, and they are night and day in handling and just plain fun factor. I'd also pass on a 760. I'd much prefer a 701 over a 760.

 

[Themist456]

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What about this one? About 2k more buts it's a 2005 701

 

[brapperdoodle]

(I am mechanically inclined just don't know about hulls so I would make sure everything is in good shape).

I just want to mention, jet skis have some very specific and not obvious mechanics to them. Easy to make mistakes on these skis if you are just getting into riding. Just make sure you ask a lot of questions on here, many folks will be glad to help! As far as the hulls go, spend the extra $$$ and get a decent RN because it will be much better off in the long run... Composites aren't difficult to work with, if you are good at following instructions and you are patient, you can fix just about ANYTHING on a hull...

 

[E350]

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What about this one? About 2k more buts it's a 2005 701

PERFECT ! BUY IT BEFORE I DO ! (I am in Calif. so don't worry. Although I did buy my FX-1 from MN...)
AND NEVER LOOK BACK.
(Except to come back here and tell us about riding it!)

 

[E350]

So.....when Trump gets back in in 2024, SJs will be like two for a dollar?

Personally I'd wait for a RN. I own both, a SN and an '04 RN, and they are night and day in handling and just plain fun factor. I'd also pass on a 760. I'd much prefer a 701 over a 760.

Gee wiz, I dunno, do you notice any difference in the economy between Trump a year ago and Democrats now?

 

[OtherDonnieGuy]

A roundnose isn't going to flip any easier than a squarenose IMO. Both will be very difficult if hull is stock.
squarenose SJ's typically handle better than 96-07 roundnose, but in the end will come down to rider preference.
Also, squarenose top deck is very weak compared to a roundnose, you will break it if you don't reinforce it and are doing Ariel freestyle! And the squarenose hood let's in an unreal amount of water in the hull, hood liner mod is critical. And the stock handpole is garbage.

 

[OtherDonnieGuy]

@Themist456 where you located at in Illinois?

 

[E350]

@OtherDonnieGuy I have never ridden the '96-07' RN* only our '94 SN. But everybody says that the 96-07 RN is better handling. I really value people who have nuanced opinions which are contrary to the mainstream opinion. Not that either is "right" for everybody everything (I mean I ride an FX-1 which most people think is crazy), but I can learn from hearing about the differences.

So, I am interested in hearing your opinion on why handling on the SN is better:

"squarenose SJ's typically handle better than 96-07 roundnose"

* That's not quite true. I rode @wavewarrior 's RN but I was just trying to hold on going straight, trying to modulate the throttle to keep it from going into hyperspeed on the pipe... (I really suck at riding.)

 

[OtherDonnieGuy]

@OtherDonnieGuy I have never ridden the '96-07' RN* only our '94 SN. But everybody says that the 96-07 RN is better handling. I really value people who have nuanced opinions which are contrary to the mainstream opinion. Not that either is "right" for everybody everything (I mean I ride an FX-1 which most people think is crazy), but I can learn from hearing about the differences.

So, I am interested in hearing your opinion on why handling on the SN is better:

"squarenose SJ's typically handle better than 96-07 roundnose"

* That's not quite true. I rode @wavewarrior 's RN but I was just trying to hold on going straight, trying to modulate the throttle to keep it from going into hyperspeed on the pipe... (I really suck at riding.)

Roundnose is top heavy, especially with that damn stock hood. Look how many aftermarket hoods and pole lowering brackets were made To remedy that years ago. Some people like the top heavy feel, others hate it. I know a handful of old farts that won't own another 96-07 hull (you lurkers know who you are lol). I've had roundnoses that were so slick you could barely lean them without wiping out, and others that stay connected well with same mods. Every ski is different. Sometimes you gotta go through a few until you find one you really like, odd as that sounds. Some skis just never do work for you the way you want.

personally to me, for freeriding/freestyle, biggest thing is the flat hood and flush pole on the Squarenose for when doing hood tricks. Much more stable ski. And jumping the Squarenose just feels more "flickable" with small engine as well, where as most roundnose leave me feeling like I need a little bit more power to really maneuver the ski.

 

[97superjet]

@OtherDonnieGuy I have never ridden the '96-07' RN* only our '94 SN. But everybody says that the 96-07 RN is better handling. I really value people who have nuanced opinions which are contrary to the mainstream opinion. Not that either is "right" for everybody everything (I mean I ride an FX-1 which most people think is crazy), but I can learn from hearing about the differences.

So, I am interested in hearing your opinion on why handling on the SN is better:

"squarenose SJ's typically handle better than 96-07 roundnose"

* That's not quite true. I rode @wavewarrior 's RN but I was just trying to hold on going straight, trying to modulate the throttle to keep it from going into hyperspeed on the pipe... (I really suck at riding.)

FX1 for the win, I liked my superjet but love my fx1... find one of those lol

 

[Sparkplug]

You can learn to ride a 2x4 with pump with enough time. You can throw any superjet from 1991-2020 around just the same with enough tray time.

Square nose will hit your wallet the least and gain the most in potential profit value. A round nose will be easier to find parts for and will have a slightly newer feel to its ride.

A round nose will transition alot more parts to a aftermarket hull. But no one does that anymore. Money ahead just to do all new.

Reality is. You gotta pay to play. If your making pennies a hour. Then it makes sense to spend hours chasing a deal instead of actually riding.

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