what am i supossed to do?

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wydopen

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ok i sold a 750 shortblock to someone on the boards here...im sure he will chime in shortly...

motor was rebuilt reinstalled in my buddies sxi pro and ridden for at least 5hrs after break in..the motor worked great and was spotless


i send the motor off and the guy, he says it looks good and hes happy.this was several weeks ago..so i get a pm today claiming that he only rode the motor for 30min and it snagged a ring and needs a bore and new piston..he tells me i have to pay for the damage or hes going through paypal to recieve a refund...

why shoudl i pay for this...there are way to many variables that could have caused this...

gas not mixed right
cracked intake mani
improperly tuned carbs

what am i supossed to do...id be willing to pay for his piston or bore but not both..i have no way of verifiying the damage..sure he can post a pic of a kawi 750 motor and say its mine but how do i know hes not bsing...i didnt say he had a warranty or anything...


how can paypal even refund someone for something like that when there are so many variables

he claims the ports wernt chamfered...wouldnt that have happened the three times i personally rode the motor hard?
 
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marz831

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If you sold the motor and it had problems right off the bat then that would be understandable. It's just understood that there are certain risks involved when buying things like motors or skis from other board members. I think you showed a lot of good faith in offering to pay for a piston or a bore which is a lot more than most would do.
 
Matt_E

Matt_E

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It's bull********. It's been used, 30 mins or 30 hours. Who TF knows?

You didn't imply a warranty. The buyer was happy upon receiving the motor, and it ran.

Save all your emails for a paypal dispute, and do one of the following:
Disassociate your bank account with your paypal account
OR
Empty your bank account of all funds.
 
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wydopen

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Matt_E said:
It's bull********. It's been used, 30 mins or 30 hours. Who TF knows?

You didn't imply a warranty. The buyer was happy upon receiving the motor, and it ran.

Save all your emails for a paypal dispute, and do one of the following:
Disassociate your bank account with your paypal account
OR
Empty your bank account of all funds.
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thanks man i already emptied my paypal...ill get my bank off there asap...and the funny thing is the guy thought it would be funny to send me a pm claiming the motor was junk when he first got it and then wrote j/k and that he was happy with it...i was less than ammused...
 
The Penguin

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Matt_E said:
It's bull********. It's been used, 30 mins or 30 hours. Who TF knows?

You didn't imply a warranty. The buyer was happy upon receiving the motor, and it ran.

Save all your emails for a paypal dispute, and do one of the following:
Disassociate your bank account with your paypal account
OR
Empty your bank account of all funds.
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yup
 
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wydopen

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marz831 said:
If you sold the motor and it had problems right off the bat then that would be understandable. It's just understood that there are certain risks involved when buying things like motors or skis from other board members. I think you showed a lot of good faith in offering to pay for a piston or a bore which is a lot more than most would do.
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well i said i would pay for half if he could prove that it was my fault..but after thinking about it i dont think that i have any obligation too
 
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marz831

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I agree, I wouldn't pay him poop either. If he wanted a motor with a warranty, he should have bought one from SBT. :biggrin:
 
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wydopen

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heres what he wrote

this is what he wrote after first recieving the motor
******** YOU THAT MOTOR IS GARBAGE I WANT MY ********NG MONEY BACK IM GOING THROUGH PAYPAL!!! Just kidding. Im very happy with it so far. The pistons and walls seem very clean and smooth. It did have one broken stud and i dont know what those 2 bolts are with the cylinder but i figured you snapped some studs or something. Thats all fine and dandy as long as it holds. Im pleased and thanks so much. i got her to fire up for a few seconds but the bolts i have for the exhaust arent long enough so im going to need to get some tomorrow. A+++

pm #1
Ok SO we have a small problem here. That engine is messed up pretty bad. One hole seems to have snagged a ring and it wrecked the piston and cylinder wall. Its going to need a piston, rings and a bore. I put about 30mins on it when this happened. Im hoping your either willing to take the motor back or cover the costs to repair. I can get all parts for dealer pricing so it will onloy cost abouty 70 for pison and rings but bore is going to be 60ish for one hole. Please get back to me cause i dont want to have to try to go through paypal to get this handled.

pm#2 and what i worte

wydopen said:
you know what i have no obligation to help you out....there are too many variables as to why the motor failed if it did at all..

was the gas mixed right?
were the carbs tuned right?
was it getting water?[/Q

Ok, Well absolutely yes it was getting water. Pouring out of the pisser. Yes carbs are tuned right because they came off a completely stock boat with stock jets. I checked the plugs after a few minutes of riding and they were a light brown. Perfect. The gas was mixed at 32:1 because the oil injection is removed for peace of mind.

The motor was setup properly as far as intake and exhaust and electrics. I just took the top end off and i see what happened. It snagged the top ring and it tore it apart. It rode on the cylinder wall and wore down the piston and melted part of it. The dowel in the piston to align the ring came lose after all that and smacked a bunch of marks in the cylinder head and the piston top. The cause was improper chamfering of the ports. They are not chamfered enough and some dont even look chamfered. You said that motor had 5 hours on it. It was clearly a ticking time bomb and it blew on me. Ive had that motor just over a week and the reason your hearing about it now is that like i told you i was going on vacation. I put the motor in tested it for 10 minutes locally and it seemed to be ok. I took it 700 miles to maryland on vacation put it in the water drove 1.2 way to the hosue we were renting at about 4k rpms and it started to bog so i went easier. It ran another 3 minutes and almost died and was running on one cylinder. I limped back to the shore and had to walk about a mile on the side of the shore back to the dock and walk back to the house we were renting from the dock for 2 hours in 95 degree weather to get my truck because i had gotten dropped off. This is not in any way my fault. Im trying to be good about this and just repair it and keep it. Ill fix the chamfering and put ti back together. I expect you to if not pay for all of this a very good portion of it. If you refuse to pay at all im going to go through paypal and send the motor back. This is not what i want to do at all but i dont want to spend an additional $150ish to repair a motor that i already spent 600 on.

pm #3

Everything about my end is perfect. The ports were not chamfered correctly. I can show you pictures that will explain everything you need to see. Ill post a thread on here asking what everyone thinks caused this and 100% will say snagged ring. I know motors as well so dont treat me like a novice. I told you i can get everything for cost im not trying to rip anyone off.
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wydopen

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Bonzia Bob said:
As long as you never implied a warranty, then walk away. I know it sounds like a dick head thing to do, but you have no way of knowing what happened to the motor after he received it. When you buy something used, thats what you get.
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alright..guys im sure hes gonna post some pics of the motor shortly...im curious to see for myself
 
oxnard111

oxnard111

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Bonzia Bob said:
As long as you never implied a warranty, then walk away. I know it sounds like a dick head thing to do, but you have no way of knowing what happened to the motor after he received it. When you buy something used, thats what you get.
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exactly, so the buyer of this engine, and you know who you are, back off... The engine was used so Wydopen has no obligation to you.
 
Idok

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i remmeber reading about this a couple of weeks ago, but dont remmeber who the user was

you owe NOTHING



make sure to unattatch your bank account from paypal or they'll withdraw it right from your checking account....

saki is an EXPERT on this
 
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wydopen

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Idok said:
i remmeber reading about this a couple of weeks ago, but dont remmeber who the user was

you owe NOTHING



make sure to unattatch your bank account from paypal or they'll withdraw it right from your checking account....

saki is an EXPERT on this
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done and done

im not gonna use his screenname in hopes he wil suck up the 120$ and fix the damn motor...i sold him the friken motor for 600 shipped in MINT cond...
 
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wydopen

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