what am i supossed to do?

[bluegtate]

Ive bought thousands of dollars worth of stuff from people on this site. Never had a problem. I never said i was intentionally screwed but I am being screwed now. Maybe you should mind your own business since you dont know what you are talking about. Is this a popularity contest? I think his rep is being tarnished as we speak. How many of you would feel comfortable buying form him now knowing how he is going to react if he sells you garbage? Take his side allllllll you want. Lets see one of you buy a motor from him now.

Your a tool bro. When buying used parts there is always a risk. As of wydopens rep being tarnished your wrong. I would buy a part off of him without question and I am sure many others would as well. Also Andrew keep all emails, they will help with paypal. He stated in the email he got the motor and it looks good. Now the question really is how many people will sell or buy parts from you RideItLikeYouStoleIt?

 

[Matt_E]

Just so you know.....Paypal will NOT give you any money if it cannot be recovered from the seller. Try all you might.

Additionally, I would feel fully comfortable buying a motor from Andrew. However, I would inspect ANY used motor before I ran it, no matter who it's from.

I hope you get this worked out.

 

[chrisdoc0608]

just noticed something.... you are a broke college student yet you say you have bought thousands of dollars of stuff on this site , so why is $120 such a concern

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

Ive got plenty of hobbies and already have a done up RN. Say youll buy whatever you want lets see you pull the trigger. I wish you could walk in the shoes then run your mouth. Its a ski i bought for my girlfriend so that i can be left alone while riding my jet. I think id be more concerned about the opinion of some of the people on here if alot of them werent middle aged rednecks. It isnt that big a problem considering im a year away from being an aerospace engineer. So if your career choices were poor enough that you need to swindle people then theres no need to feel bad at all we should all feel sorry for you i guess. If he had offered to pay half and not try to be a swindler i would have been happy. Now we have to deal with all kinds of other drama on the forum that isnt really what this place is about.

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

over the course of time ive had an account here and on pwctoday ive spent over a 1000 dollars easy. I dont spend money i dont have but i surely dont have any extra money hanging around. I spend my paychecks over the summer on my skis and stuff and try to save for books. Engineering/science books are not cheap. 12 classes a year X an average of 150 a book = big bucks. Nevermind school costing 48k a year.

 

[marz831]

Ive got plenty of hobbies and already have a done up RN. Say youll buy whatever you want lets see you pull the trigger. I wish you could walk in the shoes then run your mouth. Its a ski i bought for my girlfriend so that i can be left alone while riding my jet. I think id be more concerned about the opinion of some of the people on here if alot of them werent middle aged rednecks. It isnt that big a problem considering im a year away from being an aerospace engineer. So if your career choices were poor enough that you need to swindle people then theres no need to feel bad at all we should all feel sorry for you i guess. If he had offered to pay half and not try to be a swindler i would have been happy. Now we have to deal with all kinds of other drama on the forum that isnt really what this place is about.

Dude, put the shovel down and just jump in the hole already. :splatt:

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

I was willing to work it out with him this is route he chose i guess. You are incorrect about paypal. On my account im covered up to 5k on any transaction.


This is like a high school gossip fest. Man up plain and simple. Now ive gotta listen to the girl complain everytime i want to ride my jet.

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

Dude, put the shovel down and just jump in the hole already. :splatt:

I dont care about any holes im very aggravated about how people think its ok to conduct business. Very immoral.

 

[motojunkie96]

I'm going with everybody else on this - any time you buy something used, you are automatically assuming a risk and the seller does not have to warranty anything - period. If he had said "I guarantee this motor to run perfect for 30 days or 100 hours" and then the motor seized, then yes he would owe you repairs. From what I have seen thus far, that is not the case.

For example, I sold a guitar amp that was MINT, it sat in the closet most it's life. Said I never had any problems out of it, but never guaranteed anything. Sold it via PayPal and shipped it off - buyer said that it was no good and crackled and popped and that he wanted me to pay for supposed repairs. I never ever had the problem, so I didn't owe him $hit. Nothing was ever done about it either by PayPal.

It sounds like you have experience with engines - thus you should know that any engine can be a ticking time bomb. Mechanical things fail at random times, and it happened to this engine. Saw a brand new YZ250F dirtbike get a brand new topend w/ new valves and run like a champ for a couple weeks. It then broke a valve on something that was brand new. Like everybody has said, $hit happens.

If you have any e-mails or messages that proves that he guaranteed anything, please post them for everybody.

 

[chrisdoc0608]

i think this situation is very ********ty. but you should have known going into it that it was a USED motor. if it had 5 or 500 hours on it things can still be messed up. i agree with Wattage, when you saw that the motor was "frankenstiened" togather that should have raised a flag and you should have taken a peak at what was done on the inside... take it as a lesson learned and just fix it.

 

[ketsair]

It isnt that big a problem considering im a year away from being an aerospace engineer.

this just humored me, because i have never, (that i know of) met an engineer that had any common sense, :bigeyes::bigeyes:

sorry bro,

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

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asm14@humboldt.edu..wait until i send you some better pics tonight..



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600 shipped works for me...

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the ports arnt messed with enough to warrant jetting..the flywheel is the same as an sxi pro so the bottom end must not be a 92

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id do 625 shipped...this is a fresh motor

yea that will work


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make me an offer on the motor..it runs hard

Im not sure i want to get intoa frankenstein motor. Haha. It has a small pin crank? Is the cylinder ported or stock? More pics?

i can take some more pics...my buddy said he "cleaned up" the ports a little..i wouldnt consider it ported..the head must be milled cause comp. was at 170psi before i removed it..it was pretty fast. and had good bottom..crank and cases are small in w/ big pin cyl..weisco pistons


I dont know what your looking for as far as money wise. Ive got a few other motors available that are straight big pin. Ill give you 550 shipped for it.

How played with are the ports? I want something i can throw in and use a stock exhaust and stock intake without having to play with jetting. I have too many other porjects right now and its for my GF's sitdown. I dont want to deal with anything but installing it. And is the bottom end a 92? If so not interested that takes a differrent flywheel.

What was the price we agreed on? 600 shipped?

What did you say? I didnt get anything?

WHats your paypal name
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[Vumad]

I don't mean to get in the middle of anything, because I don't really know a whole lot about engines. I know the basics of how they work and basically how they are put together. I inquire out of curiosity.

this is what he wrote after first recieving the motor
******** YOU THAT MOTOR IS GARBAGE I WANT MY ********NG MONEY BACK IM GOING THROUGH PAYPAL!!! Just kidding. Im very happy with it so far. The pistons and walls seem very clean and smooth. It did have one broken stud and i dont know what those 2 bolts are with the cylinder but i figured you snapped some studs or something. Thats all fine and dandy as long as it holds. Im pleased and thanks so much. i got her to fire up for a few seconds but the bolts i have for the exhaust arent long enough so im going to need to get some tomorrow. A+++

How can you see the piston walls without taking the engine apart? Aren't the studs the long bolts that hold on the top end? I do realize we cannot see the studs (if the studs are what I believe them to be), but how could you have seen them if they are inside the head? Wouldn't you have to take the nuts off and remove the head to see any of those things? I don't know what chamfering is, hopefully someone could explain that to me, but if the engine was apart to look at the piston walls and the studs, how come the chamfering was missed?

Again, my curiosity gets me. I might be completly wrong in my understanding of the situation. Thats why I ask though, I am curious about engines. Someone fill us novices in on chamfering.

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

thats all jumbled and messed up. I made ti clear and he made it clear this was a drop in and go motor. I dont even want to send the thing back. Stand behind your items. I honestly didnt expect him to jump on and say oh yes let me pay for it but i think paying for half is fair at the least.

 

[extreemthrottle]

If I were to buy any motor that someone else had put together, I would immediately take it apart upon reciept just to make sure things were ok. There were odd/snapped studs in there. This would have been the first reason I would have pulled it aprt to check everything. Also, the fact that it was a new/rebuilt engine would also lead me to at least pull the head and check the pistons walls.

In one of the e-mails you sent to Wydopen, you state that you know engines well, so I thought you may have done a really good inspection on the engine before running it. With that said, I would be a little disappointed if I was in your shoes.

I would think the best thing to do here, for the sake of riders helping out other riders would be for both of you to cop half of the cost each.

When it's all said and done, and the weapons have been put down, we're all here for the same thing, so lets help each other out so we can all get along and keep riding.

X-2 FOR ME!!

what's 60-70 bucks over the long haul.. just split it and be done with the whole thing, alot easier than the other route, imho...

 

[ketsair]

basically a beveled port edge so the ring doesn't have a sharp edge to get hung on as it goes up & down

I don't mean to get in the middle of anything, because I don't really know a whole lot about engines. I know the basics of how they work and basically how they are put together. I inquire out of curiosity.



How can you see the piston walls without taking the engine apart? Aren't the studs the long bolts that hold on the top end? I do realize we cannot see the studs (if the studs are what I believe them to be), but how could you have seen them if they are inside the head? Wouldn't you have to take the nuts off and remove the head to see any of those things? I don't know what chamfering is, hopefully someone could explain that to me, but if the engine was apart to look at the piston walls and the studs, how come the chamfering was missed?

Again, my curiosity gets me. Someone fill us novices in on chamfering.

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

I don't mean to get in the middle of anything, because I don't really know a whole lot about engines. I know the basics of how they work and basically how they are put together. I inquire out of curiosity.



How can you see the piston walls without taking the engine apart? Aren't the studs the long bolts that hold on the top end? I do realize we cannot see the studs (if the studs are what I believe them to be), but how could you have seen them if they are inside the head? Wouldn't you have to take the nuts off and remove the head to see any of those things? I don't know what chamfering is, hopefully someone could explain that to me, but if the engine was apart to look at the piston walls and the studs, how come the chamfering was missed?


Again, my curiosity gets me. Someone fill us novices in on chamfering.

You can see inside the engine through the exhaust ports, I didnt pull the head because he said it was hard running motor that was ready to go so I didnt want to replace a head gasket. Studs are the bolts that thread into engine components that nuts screw onto. Chamfering basically is angling the edges of the ports so they arent a sharp edge to snag a ring. Usually done at about 45 degrees. Mostly needed on the top and bottom of the ports not so much on the sides.

 

[cdubb]

Vumad,when the motor was out you can look through the exhaust and intake and see inside,right then is when a motor builder inspecting a motor would notice the chamfering or lack of,chamfering is removing the square edges around the ports. It wouldnt of had to been torn into to see most of that.

Bad deal gone very bad.

Hope that helps ya Vumad



Sorry Im a very slow typer and got beat to the punch.

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

It isnt 60-70 its more. itll cost me less than most because of working at a dealership but still not 60-70. 60-70 for piston a little less for a bore, Head gasket, base gasket, exhaust manifold gaskets. And the time to put it back together. So lets shoot out about 150ish. Turning a $600 motor into $750.

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

It wasnt a bad deal. If it was as I was told it was before i bought it we would have been fine. It wasnt. He should cover all of it i think but if he offered half it would have atleast shown decent character. Removing bank accounts from paypal shows that regardless of what any unbias institution thinks that he doesn't care about anything but money. Thanks for wrecking my vacation too. You should pay for the hundred+ i had to pay in tolls just to bring a ski i couldnt even use.