what am i supossed to do?

[ToddW]

You bought it used, you checked it out, you paid, end of story... it sucks but is the way of life.

If you want a warranty get a certified Honda.

You both learned a lesson... seller learned to say "AS IS" and "NO WARRANTY" so this isn't an issue, and you learned things are not as they seem, and BUYER BEWARE.

You are probably both great guys... and $150, $250, $500, and even $5000 are SUPER CHEAP to learn this lesson. Think how pissed you'd be if this was a $10,000 car, truck, etc.

 

[Mark44]

WOW I didn't know that a motor had a warranty PERIOD. I know that SBT offers a warranty but that was all. It sounds like your SOL, Buying anything is a gamble and you just happen to loose at this one. I bought a motor with less than 5 hours on it and my 5mm stroker crank ate it's own bearings after about 8 gallons of fuel. Which in turn took out my NEW ADA cylinder and ate the piston and head in the process. So now my 850 motor will be closer to a 860. Not because I want it to but I bought it and it didn't hold together so I will have to PAY to get it fixed. It is a gamble and I lost. Just like you So suck it up go to the library and read the books you need until you can buy your own.

I agree with speedfreak you purchased a used motor and got a used motor with no warranty you gambled and it didn’t work out for you so quit crying and suck it up no one is at blame here. We purchased a used SJ and had to debug it even put a new pump in it but we new it was used from the start that is how it works we didn’t complain or ask for money back.

I also made a mental not who not to sell parts too.

Mark44

 

[Kaveman]

Im going to. Camera battery was dead and i went riding tonight on the jet. I only own 1 750 motor and its the one i bought from him I never had a blown up motor. Like i said too it bogged like running on one cylinder so i went to shore and walked to back to the dock. The cylinder walls arent really that bad considering how the piston looks. They look bad but alot of it is melted aluminum stuck to it that will get cleaned right up with a bore.

That battery must have been REAL dead! Pics?

 

[wydopen]

i think the biggest mistake was starting this thread.

saki i never used his name in the thread, and he said thats what he was gonna do so i figured id beat him too it plus i wanted to get your opinions on the right thing to do in this situation!

...and im not lying about when you got the motor..it shipped 7/6/2007 im holding the recipt in my hand


i did offer to pay for half but after you recieved my pm you logged off for over an hour and then came back on telling me i had to pay for it all..i changed my mind after thinking about it and how chances are you are probally lying

i advertised this motor as fresh because it was...the motor was rebuilt by my friend(the previous owner) and ridden once!!..the ski sat for two years until i got into the sport and got him to ride it..we went to the lake on three seperate occasions and rode...i rode the ski, he rode the ski...no problems...so im sorry but this motor was fresh and ran great..

ok just to make this go away send me your paypal and ill send you 75$ cause im a nice guy ...if you can prove that the motor was not assembled correctly


POST SOME PICS OF THE DAMAGE..IF IT WAS CAUSED BY IMPROPER ASSEMBLY ILL SEND YOU 75$..THAT IS FAIR!!!

 

[wydopen]

when i sold my last green ski.. the kid that bought called me up a month later and said he had some kind of problem with the cylinder and had to take it to a machine shop. i offered to pay half the bill (and did)

that's just "right", you know?

you don't have to do it, you don't owe him anything. but put yourself in his shoes. karma.

for sure..thats why i think half/75$ is fair...but i gotta see some pics or i call BS

 

[Idok]

his whole first post thing with telling you the motor was F'd up and he was going to do a PP chargeback is not sitting right with me


even if he said it was a joke

 

[Mouthfulloflake]

YES.

I sold my 750sx a couple of years ago, the guy was happy, it blew up months later, he emailed me asking about it, I was VERY sorry, he understood it wasnt my fault, I felt bad still, and I gave him the set of pistons I had for a 750sx ( ive got 2 other 750 powered boats), and hooked him up on a CHEAP set of engine cases.

He still wasnt happy I dont think, BUT, I helped, and it eased my conscience.

now, your deal here is different, but its all in how good or bad you feel about a deal afterwards.

most of us arent here to profit from selling parts, but just exchanging stuff to better suit our interests at any given time.

I think the buyer here rubs me the wrong way too, I would want some pictures of the damage, and there would be some phone calls and discussion instead of all this childish buddy buddy on the boards BS.

when i sold my last green ski.. the kid that bought called me up a month later and said he had some kind of problem with the cylinder and had to take it to a machine shop. i offered to pay half the bill (and did)

that's just "right", you know?

you don't have to do it, you don't owe him anything. but put yourself in his shoes. karma.

 

[AlbanyMotorsports]

Well that took a lot out of my day. Im now dumber than I was on page 1, where I started.

JK. Hope it works out.

 

[Mark44]

Ok so what is the time limit on this warranty? 2 days 10 days 6 months? Used parts are just that used part no warranty. IMO Did he have oil in the fuel? Hmmm who knows............

Mark44

 

[Matt_E]

A picture of the ports in question would go a long ways here. :biggthumpup:

 

[AlbanyMotorsports]

looks like you overrated in your avatar. :smile:

I wanted to get a better look at the top of my hood..I figured if I could get high enough and let the ski land on my head It would give me the best view.

 

[wydopen]

Ok so what is the time limit on this warranty? 2 days 10 days 6 months? Used parts are just that used part no warranty. IMO Did he have oil in the fuel? Hmmm who knows............

Mark44

thats exactally why im hesitant to pay him anything..

 

[onesojourner]

I am not going to read through all of this but I agree with what was said about splitting it. True the motor was sold with no warranty, but I think every one will agree that a rebuilt motor should not blow in a week. this is a sucky deal for both parties. split the money and call it a day.

 

[SJBrit]

my buddy said he "cleaned up" the ports a little..i wouldnt consider it ported..

As far as I can tell, the fact that the ports had been messed with was disclosed prior to the sale, which implies that this was acceptable to the buyer (since the sale went through). It seem to be very poor judgement not to inspect the motor in detail before running it. So, is this the seller's fault? Absolutely not! Nobody got screwed here. $hit happens, but this was predictable $hit.

That said, this is a small community, and the thing I like about it is that we all support each other. I don't know how much stuff I've given people at freerides to help them get their skis back running, but I don't mind at all, and I never ask for a penny. In this case, as the seller, I wouldn't have hesitated to contribute some to the repair, although I think the buyer must take some responsibility for that too.

What a shame things get so heated - was I like that when I was at college? I feel like I'm more tolerant now that I'm a middle aged redneck.

 

[Matt_E]

but I think every one will agree that a rebuilt motor should not blow in a week.

Very true, but before I, as a seller, would send any money, I would demand proof of why it blew.

 

[Idok]

he was just trying to be funny. he's probably a younger guy. i can picture all the little guys i skateboard with talking like that to each other. it just comes across sh*tty on a PM.

maybe i'm the one totally off base here? i just thought too many people were too quick to basically tell this guy he was SOL.

personally, i wouldn't do that if it was one of my motors (of which you've bought one of them i think idok, right?).

50/50 is the right way to go here. he's not even asking to have labor picked up (which alot of people would probably want). i actually think he's being reasonable... maybe just came across the wrong way... write that off to youth... god knows i have a temper too and when i'm pissed, things i say could be said better.

:dunno:

He might have been trying to be funny, but it looks like it might have bit him in the ass





....I bought a motor from stricky (your old one)....and it ripped, no problems..especially for running 200 psi :bigeyes:


I also bought a motor from jetrock (a wetjet motor)....pulled it apart and it had a bad topend

I rebuilt it @ 100% my own cost

 

[RideItLikeYouStoleIt]

This is a hot topic. 6 pages in a day. Ill get the pics up soon. I was just joking with him at first and people take it the wrong way. I never intended to go through paypal. I wanted to be able to work it out one on one. I am not out to screw anyone over in any way. I didnt try to rub anyone the wrong way. I log on and theres 2 pages of people bashing me without me ever saying a word. Gets me pissed off and then my mouth starts to flow.

I sold a car a few years back that ran mint. It was a stupid acura integra with a few things done. Some dumbass kid bought it and blew it up like 25 days later. I didnt want to but I took the car back and had to sell it for half to someone else.

I think half is fair.

 

[RoyalFlush@PCB]

Whoa----I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I agree with Saki on this one. I think it would be the "right" thing for wydopen to at least help with a portion of the repair bill, provided that rideitlikeyoustoleit can provide some evidence of the lack of chamfering.

Whenever I have a problem with a sale, I do my BEST to rectify the situation. :biggrin:

 

[wydopen]

Whoa----I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I agree with Saki on this one. I think it would be the "right" thing for wydopen to at least help with a portion of the repair bill, provided that rideitlikeyoustoleit can provide some evidence of the lack of chamfering.

Whenever I have a problem with a sale, I do my BEST to rectify the situation. :biggrin:

ok post the pics...you guys decide...if im in the wrong ill pay half...so lets see the pics...

i just cant take your word for it man..

 

[WAB]

There is no warenty on a used motor, but this was sold has fresh and it appears to be in the first pics. Poor bore/chamfering work on a fresh motor falls on the seller, I think. I had my cyl bored not too long ago and the guy did not chamfer very much, so I went back and did more myself. Poor chamfering is not something that you can really tell by pics. Seller may not have realized it either though.
Seller paying $75 towards a new piston and bore seems fair though (with damage pics). Case closed as far as I am concerned. All is well with the world and the universe is back in balance.