what exactly do kenny keeper do ?

[weston]

Kenny keepers do not prevent the motor from smashing in to the hood in an event you have a gnarly pancake (has this happened to anyone?)

from what i see the keepers mount on the top of the motor mount and prevent the belly plated from shifting on the mount ?

enlighten me on the correct mounting and end result of using the keepers

 

[ticega306]

yes they do install on top of the forward mounts with the angled tab pointed up and forward.

what they do is prevent the forward movement of the engine past a certain point on hard re-entries (stabs, subs etc). this prevents the rubber mounts from over extending and ultimately failing. they will have zero effect if the engine is "forced" straight up off the mounts as u described.
only forward movements are limited with current design. there's been talk about designing a rear mount keeper for rearward movements that tend to jam in the coupler and midshaft on hard tail landings.

hope this helps

 

[weston]

yes they do install on top of the forward mounts with the angled tab pointed up and forward.

what they do is prevent the forward movement of the engine past a certain point on hard re-entries (stabs, subs etc). this prevents the rubber mounts from over extending and ultimately failing. they will have zero effect if the engine is "forced" straight up off the mounts as u described.
only forward movements are limited with current design. there's been talk about designing a rear mount keeper for rearward movements that tend to jam in the coupler and midshaft on hard tail landings.

hope this helps

yes that does help have you herd of a high pancake resulting in the engine tearing the mounts and potentially smashing in to the inside of the hood i would think this has happened more than ounce if two mounts let go at the same time the other would follow

 

[ticega306]

i'm sure its happened...i've never seen it and its definitley not common...but it could happen

 

[weston]

my question is wouldn't you rather buy a "keeper" that did all three prevented slipping froward and backward and out or off just an idea say what everyone is running now retails for 75.00 and the prevent slipping backward would cost you another 75.00 wouldn't you want a product that could do all three for say 125.00 or less sounds like a no brainier :ugh2:

 

[vjhardcore]

I like that idea - I don't have them - But I'd be all over the all in one set up.

 

[weston]

I like that idea - I don't have them - But I'd be all over the all in one set up.

well thats good to hear i will start designing a set immediately:grouphug:

 

[weston]

yes they do install on top of the forward mounts with the angled tab pointed up and forward.

what they do is prevent the forward movement of the engine past a certain point on hard re-entries (stabs, subs etc). this prevents the rubber mounts from over extending and ultimately failing. they will have zero effect if the engine is "forced" straight up off the mounts as u described.
only forward movements are limited with current design. there's been talk about designing a rear mount keeper for rearward movements that tend to jam in the coupler and midshaft on hard tail landings.

hope this helps

the angeled tab that points upward must intersect with the belly plates correct? do you know what kind of angle? it looks like the tab is not bent rather one side is ground down to achieve this "angle" is this correct?
i would like to see a side shot of this angle or a close up of one of these installed

 

[GReenANt]

i could't tell you what video it was but a friend of mine has a video of a freestyle pro going off a solid ramp in a lake and landing the ski flat on its side (not sure if it was carb or pipe side) The hood shifted about 2-4 inches to the side with a bent latch. the motor broke all 4 mounts and the carbs were broken off of the motor presumably from the motor smashing into the hull. Could have been more damage its been a few years since i saw that.

 

[THRUST]

i ve alreadyhad the idea , here is the lowdown you dont need it to hold it back ward really the coupler does that , and from the top if you run a bpipe the chamber sits on top of your left front mount . my answer is we are working on a special motor mount to help this . the other problemn is if you stop mount from breaking you will start to pull hull insert for the mounts except on some aftermarket skis

 

[weston]

i ve alreadyhad the idea , here is the lowdown you dont need it to hold it back ward really the coupler does that , and from the top if you run a bpipe the chamber sits on top of your left front mount . my answer is we are working on a special motor mount to help this . the other problemn is if you stop mount from breaking you will start to pull hull insert for the mounts except on some aftermarket skis

if the coupler stops the inertia wouldnt that shove the half shaft rear ward?
well if the motor has enough momentum to tear the motor mounts
without some sort of bracket to stop the motor from traveling forward, back,& out/off there will be a considerable amount of damage.
what is the importance of the chamber sitting on the mount? are you saying you are working on a mount to fix this problem of the chamber rubbing on the mount? I'm kinda confused please elaborate
i know i would rather pull an insert than have my motor thrash about or even worse blow the hood off and take part of the hood lip along with it to the bottom of wherever i was ridding especially if i had a 6K motor:Eyecrazy:

 

[Crab]

Somethings got to give......avoid pancaking upside down when possible. (easier said than done the way my luck has been the last year.......) I have hit bottom nosing in big stabs in surf 3 times before breaking my leg and my keepers seem to have saved the day!!

 

[weston]

Somethings got to give......avoid pancaking upside down when possible. (easier said than done the way my luck has been the last year.......) I have hit bottom nosing in big stabs in surf 3 times before breaking my leg and my keepers seem to have saved the day!!

what about smacking the rear of your ski?
are you saying there is no room for improvement on this subject
I'm just curios if there is no need for the parts I'm thinking of then i wont make themuppy_dog_eyes: