what kind of rideplate?

steve-uk

steve-uk

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i run a riva groovy and like how it rides, seems to give me stability when i want it and still breaks loose for freestyle, its not overly long either

personally im not convinced "D" cuts are all they are cracked up to be
 
Big Kahuna

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steve-uk said:
i run a riva groovy and like how it rides, seems to give me stability when i want it and still breaks loose for freestyle, its not overly long either

personally im not convinced "D" cuts are all they are cracked up to be
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I better not agree with you, but I do, but someone here is going to get offended if I do so I wont.
 
Big Kahuna

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stanton said:
your opinion is based off of your experience, great. thats YOUR 2 cents and you can give it just as i can give mine. you obviously disagree with me but why the hell do you care enough to start all this? are you gonna get smart with the op because hes not taking your advice now too?
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This is a message board where people voice their opinions. I have mine. You have yours. For you the "Infamous D cut plate works" but it may not work for everybody. You pretty much said a stocker is basically the only plate out there to use "Good all around plate" which I agreed upon. But the difference is I gave examples of why this plate may not be the best option for the OP. Actually only his trial and error will answer that question. Only you and I can give him our opinion which he asked for.

How many different plate and grate combo's have you actually tested?

Since 99 I have tried many.

Riva Top Loader grate with Stock Plate.
Riva Top Loader grate with Riva Plate.
Riva Top Loader with R&D Plate (Reg Length)
Riva Top Loader with R&D Plate Extended - Long (welded flat plate on for racing)
Worx Pump Stuffer Grate with R&D Extended & Worx Dominator (plants nose to much)
Worx Top Loader with Worx Dominator cut short for freestyle (Great setup)
Worx Top Loader with D Cut plate. Messed up my flat water rolls. Did ok running up the lake. Forget bouys.
Worx Top Loader with Wamiltons Carbon Plate (old style) Best setup I have found for freestyle.

I could go back to the Worx plate or the Riva plate with no issues. Stock plate is too loose for my taste. I ride 95% flatwater and like to make turns as well as freestyle.

Toss in a Jetdynamics plate at one point, but it was the long one for racing. It was on a stock class SJ. Worked good in rough water.
 
Foximus

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What I have found works really good is a batwing cut. You make your D-cut in the middle but only as wide as the flat of the plate, do not cut from tip to tip.


Then cut 2 smaller D-cuts on the beveled section of the ride plate. It lets the rear of the ski sink in further, has the pump hook up better in the turns, and since it has those two trailing edges, it works as a bit of a strake and keeps the rear tracking. I messed around with several different cuts and variations when I made my own fiber ride plates and found that this style worked better than any thing else.... It tracked and kept the pump in the water better than a normal extended rideplate, and didnt slide out as normal D cut would...

my ski's not here and I couldnt find a picture, but heres a color in of how I mean. The cut is not quite as extensive as that in the middle but you get the point.
 

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ridethelip

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Staton says I don't ride lakes.I and Others may think this to be true.
The know-it-all has an opinion on everything regardless of whether they actually know anything about the subject or not. You know the type: something is self-evidently true purely because they happen to think it.

Know-it-alls are bombastic, opinionated and bad at listening.

What the know-it-all lacks is the humility to say: "I do not know enough about this to form a proper opinion", or "You may be right because you have more experience in this area than I do".
 
ksarge91

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First off let me say I ride lakes mostly, but do ride surf as well. Mostly do flatwater freestyle around here, but line them up every now and then to see who's fastest.

I've tried a couple different plates on my ski and have ridden a ton on other peoples boats (riva groovey, works race, jet dynamics, etc.) I had a worx dominator freestyle edition plate and it was alright, basically just an extended stock, no fancy grooves or anything. The ski handled great but I couldn't keep the nose down enough.

I sold the worx and bought a stocker without a D cut and rode that for a couple months

I then D cut the stocker. This was a BIG D cut, like a paint can D cut. I loved it all around. Perfect for flatwater, worked great in the surf until I smashed it into 3 pieces.

I needed a plate quick for wavedaze so I got a stocker and ran it uncut in the surf for a couple days. It was perfect. I haven't tried it on flat yet but I plan on leaving it like this for a while.

Therefore, in my opinion, leave the stocker on for now. Learn how to really ride the ski. Messing around with different riding positions and techniques can help you keep the nose planted and the ski from sliding out. When I carve a buoy on my ski, I put pressure on the rear inside corner of the tray to keep it from sliding. Works for me.

Another good option for you might be to get a plate that's extended 2 inches or so and D cut that. It'll still stay planted in the turns but the nose will come up at low speed.
 
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brett

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ridethelip said:
Staton says I don't ride lakes.I and Others may think this to be true.
The know-it-all has an opinion on everything regardless of whether they actually know anything about the subject or not. You know the type: something is self-evidently true purely because they happen to think it.

Know-it-alls are bombastic, opinionated and bad at listening.

What the know-it-all lacks is the humility to say: "I do not know enough about this to form a proper opinion", or "You may be right because you have more experience in this area than I do".
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Pro-pulsion

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I found that if you put a stainless washer on the rear two ride plate bolts, between the plate and the hull, it pushes the plate (stock plate) down just enough to make a big difference for high speed stability and gets rid of a lot of porpoising...if porpoising is an issue to you.
 
Pro-pulsion

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Oh I'm not on a SJ, unfortunately...but from recent experience I found that if a person is porpoising or having some stability issues at speeds, that stupid little trick actually works really well.
 
suva

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I found that if you put a stainless washer on the rear two ride plate bolts, between the plate and the hull, it pushes the plate (stock plate) down just enough to make a big difference for high speed stability and gets rid of a lot of porpoising...if porpoising is an issue to you.
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I tried that on my old 650sx back in the day, it made it handle reaaly weird (bad).
 
Big Kahuna

Big Kahuna

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depending on the ski, your weight it can be the answer. Know alot of racers did that with the Stock SXR plates. That plate is one of the best stock plates out there. I liked the TBM but the stocker worked well. TBM shined in the race chop especiallywhen it is rough.
 
V

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United Kingdom
Hi from the UK

Hmmmm, glad I found this thread :)
Was thinking of adding a ride-plate to my future scoop purchase but I'll use the money for more fuel :)

By the way - what are opinions on the Solus vs Worx short/deep scoop grate?? In fact - that seems like another post in the making?

Cheers
 
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