Custom/Hybrid Which adhesive?

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
I am putting new cooling, steering and trim tubes in my X2. What adhesive should I use to secure them in place? I don't know anything about that green stuff they use on the stock hull, but damn it works good. I was thinking trying to glass it in or using 5200. It would be really hard on a X2 to use glass/epoxy because I am not flat decking it. I think 5200 would be good but I'm afraid it might flex and seperate as I push and pull off hoses. The stock cable end caps get corroded up and I'm afraid that trying to loosen them later will destroy the 5200. Cleaning out the foam in that tight area and removing the tubes isn't a small fast or clean job and I'd rather not do it ever again.

I had asked in the past if anyone knew where to replace the stock steering/trim tubes and never got an answer. I am going to use PVC but if anyone knows where to find the stock tubing I would appriciate it. I used stainless tubing for the cooling lines.

Thanks
 

oxnard111

Creative RE Purchasing
In my experience Bostik FS 940 is very similar to 5200 but seems to remain a little more pliable over time, which might help you in terms of breaking the seal around the 5200 like you're afraid of.

The best price I found when I last purchased was in a case of 12. I just sold the ones I didn't need to other members here on the X. Took a little bit, but every single tube sold.
 

Pablo

sqeez bth levrs & lean bk
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georgia
5200 is standard for this application. You could go crazy and glue the "sheet" out of them with plexus (the green oem glue). It would work great but it ain't coming off. Plexus actually forms both a chemical bond and a structural bond when mating plastics or composites. It has a tad bit of flex so its not brittle like epoxy.
 
i put a hose clamp on the inside of both walls under the tray when i defoamed to prevent it from getting pushed in while attaching the hoses and then 5200 the shoot out of it! i dont know if you have access to the inside or not but just throwing the idea out there:fingersx:
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
I found some 3/4" schedule 10 thin PVC at home depot that's almost as thin as stock. Much better than the thick walled stuff I saw before. I'll 5200 liberally on the inside and out, and try to get a hose clamp on it. Not sure the hose clamp will fit. It's pretty tight in there. A little finess with a heat gun and I should be able to get it nice.

Thanks for the help. I figured 5200 but I needed a little boost of confidence. I was afraid torquing on the nut down the road might cause the 5200 to fail. It's sitting in some chem dip right now so I'm hoping it will be shiny and new before it goes on.
 
I'm gonna go against the grain here. 5200 is crap and it WILL fail if you push it too much. Epoxy it in and forget it. When are you ever going to need to remove the tube anyway?
 
5200 is not crap, it is used n designed to bond high end boat hulls together look it up...strong flexible stuff if applied correctly...

Used epoxy on tubes Vumad...
 

agua

FIshing for Stand ups
Location
Seminole, Fl
trying to take things apart on boats that had 5200 on them ive ripped the glass off before the 5200 bond broke, very strong stuff

thats what i would go with
 
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Like I said, I know it's against the grain but my opinion is that there is no place on a ski that warrants the use of 5200. Silicone on through hull fittings is more than adequate (and wont rip off your fiberglass as claimed), and why gamble on 5200 when epoxy is forever (and cheaper).

If you like it, great. Just trying to prevent some headache for the OP when he accidentally pushes a tube through the ski and ends up with wet foam.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
Like I said, I know it's against the grain but my opinion is that there is no place on a ski that warrants the use of 5200. Silicone on through hull fittings is more than adequate (and wont rip off your fiberglass as claimed), and why gamble on 5200 when epoxy is forever (and cheaper).

If you like it, great. Just trying to prevent some headache for the OP when he accidentally pushes a tube through the ski and ends up with wet foam.

Epoxy is going to stick to a piece of 3/8" stainless tubing better than 5200? I share your concerns about the pliability on the tubes and the ability for the bond to rip. I'm also concerned about the bond of epoxy to stainless steel, w/o cracking or seperating. I have no concerns about the epoxy to the PVC for the steering tubes.

Silicone is not adequate for my application. And 5200 has it's place, such as holding down bilge pumps.
 
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WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
Like I said, I know it's against the grain but my opinion is that there is no place on a ski that warrants the use of 5200. Silicone on through hull fittings is more than adequate (and wont rip off your fiberglass as claimed), and why gamble on 5200 when epoxy is forever (and cheaper).

If you like it, great. Just trying to prevent some headache for the OP when he accidentally pushes a tube through the ski and ends up with wet foam.

Silly boy silicone is for tits !
 
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