Which reed stuffer?

Hi, I was hoping for some feedback. Recently purchased VForce 3 reeds for my rebuild and they came with 2 sets of reeds stuffers.

Any recommendation for which stuffer to use? Any significant differences between the 2 styles ? I attached pictures of the stuffers and my intake.

Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks 20210718_161718.jpg20210718_161527.jpg
 
The ones that match the ports on the intake manifold and if they dont match, get out the die grinder and make them match . Stuffers are very controversial wether they work or dont work and it all depends on what you are looking for as an end result. Bottom end. Top end or what exactly
 

RVM

Location
Uruguay
Yo tenía la misma duda me recomendaron poner los más pequeños ya que mi Jet es STD, de todos modos intenté poner los grandes, y además no poner ninguno, ...... lo único que noté es más salida en el lado inferior con los más pequeños, ...... pero nada sorprendente.
 

waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
If a stuffer (reducing crankcase space) is bad would adding space increase power? Something like a boost bottle or grinding out the cases?
They are not reducing crankcase space as more reed area space. Think of it this way, you have a very fast moving column of air coming down the intake tract. This is great and what we want, the manifold is smaller and it spills into the reed area happily with no restriction. Shaping the flow by going larger is not really helping as it’s coming out a small hose into a larger. Let’s put it this way if you put a funnel up the end of a hose and turn it on does it now cone out or does it come out in a solid stream. Either way the reed stuffers would have no effect on power at this stage but what about when the reeds shut, the colum of air is heading to a trapped space, this means it has no choice but to back up in there and increase pressure slightly. When the column stops completely it’s going to now look for the next place to go which is back up the intake manifold. Why in this great gods name would we think that’s its good idea to make it easier for that to happen. We have already paid for the air to go in one direction and now we are going to reverse it, and when the reeds open we now have to change direction again. So what does a reed stuffer do, well you can see from it’s design it simply funnels the air back so it can flow nicely up the intake manifold. If it’s not there then it has a much harder job to reverse the flow. Stuffers are a great way to reduce the torque of your engine and also throttle response as it’s waiting for the column of air to go in the right direction
 

Quinc

Buy a Superjet
Location
California
They are not reducing crankcase space as more reed area space. Think of it this way, you have a very fast moving column of air coming down the intake tract. This is great and what we want, the manifold is smaller and it spills into the reed area happily with no restriction. Shaping the flow by going larger is not really helping as it’s coming out a small hose into a larger. Let’s put it this way if you put a funnel up the end of a hose and turn it on does it now cone out or does it come out in a solid stream. Either way the reed stuffers would have no effect on power at this stage but what about when the reeds shut, the colum of air is heading to a trapped space, this means it has no choice but to back up in there and increase pressure slightly. When the column stops completely it’s going to now look for the next place to go which is back up the intake manifold. Why in this great gods name would we think that’s its good idea to make it easier for that to happen. We have already paid for the air to go in one direction and now we are going to reverse it, and when the reeds open we now have to change direction again. So what does a reed stuffer do, well you can see from it’s design it simply funnels the air back so it can flow nicely up the intake manifold. If it’s not there then it has a much harder job to reverse the flow. Stuffers are a great way to reduce the torque of your engine and also throttle response as it’s waiting for the column of air to go in the right direction
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waxhead

wannabe backflipper
Location
gold coast
Some people love them some people dont. My reasons were explained above and I have never found a situation where I have not gained midrange torque and overev by pulling them out. This is based on my findings only and some one made have had different results
 
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