Other Why are Yamaha parts so expensive ?

[WFO Speedracer]

eust out of curiousity I priced a few parts for a 650 Yamaha and the comparable parts to a 650 Kawasaki, same sits , same year boat, same size engine, why the huge price difference?

Stator Yam $582.28
Stator Kaw $342.72
Starter yam $410.17
Starter Kaw $416.83
Bendix Yam $337.10
Bendix Kaw $280.98
Cdi-coil Yam $441.26
Cdi-coil Kaw $360.27
Solenoid Yam $85.20
Solenoid Kawi $71.98

Okay lets break this down, both stators are made by ND, the Yam stator has one more coil , a pickup, are you telling me that coil costs $240.00 to mfg ? The same site lists the individual pickup coil for $103.48. Starters are pretty much a wash , same with the solenoids, I will say I replace the Yam solenoids about 10-1 as much as I do Kawi solenoids and the Kawi unit is rebuildable.Lets continue shall we, starter bendix, same part same mfg, directly interchangable part, what gives with the $57.00 price difference ? Cdi-coil on the Yam I added the price of the coil and the CDI box, it was the only way to get a direct comparison with the Kawi setup, so it costs $80.00 more to make two components instead of one, no in the electronics industry it works backward from this model.I guess you Yamaha guys just don't mind paying extra right?

 

[Waternut]

I wonder if it has anything to do with user friendliness. In a yamaha, you can pull the tank, flywheel cover, flywheel and pull the stator out making it possible for the basic DIY guy to figure out with basic tools in his shop or available at autozone. The kawi's I worked on required pulling the engine out of the hull to get the stator out since the gas tank is in the way. This makes it more than the average guy is willing to do. Plus to get the flywheel off requires a special tool that you need to order on a kawi instead of the harmonic balancer puller you can rent from autozone. The DIY guy buys used parts reducing the demand on new parts. The kawi guy found it too difficult to do so he took it to a shop where the shop buys new parts and passes the price on to the customer.

Same with the ebox. A kawi 650 standup is PITA to pull the ebox out while the 650 yamaha is two quick bolts and it's out.

 

[tor*p*do]

if you wanna play with the good stuff
you gotta pay!

 

[Matt_E]

if you wanna play with the good stuff
you gotta pay!

Many parts are identical or mostly identical, made by the same third party vendor - bendix, starter, flywheel, coil, stator coils to name a few.

 

[snowxr]

Figure engineering, and warehousing costs into those prices. It's called overhead. What it costs to actually build a component is irrelevant.

 

[Freakrider]

It's because Yamaha is just real proud of their parts...:clown:

 

[LeftysRule22]

Same reason Mac's cost 2 to 3 times what a comparable PC build would cost. The apple logo is actually a mind control device designed by NASA, those are expensive.

 

[WaveDemon]

is this your new angle? you can't beat up on yamaha on performance or popularity so you cry about oem parts prices?

 

[WFO Speedracer]

is this your new angle? you can't beat up on yamaha on performance or popularity so you cry about oem parts prices?

Ok I will bite, tell me Wavedemon which one of the following pictures best represents this Yamaha performance you speak of.Before you say yeah you have been collecting those for years, no that is a sampling of Yamahas in the shop for repairs right now, all these happened this Summer,some of these will be repaired but most will be scrapped because they are too expensive to repair, there were many more that got carted off to the scrapyard with no pictures taken of the damage.

 

[WaveDemon]

Ok I will bite, tell me Wavedemon which one of the following pictures best represents this Yamaha performance you speak of

how about any of the pics from any freeride competition.


here is a stock superjet in this vid. show me the comparable stock 650sx vid.


[video=vimeo;24926443]http://vimeo.com/24926443[/video]

 

[AtomicPunk]

Demon, we are all just.....

 

[Big Kahuna]

Demon, we are all just.....

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Damn Sheep is not wearing a Life Jacket............ Making us all look bad.

 

[WaveDemon]

wool floats

 

[Idok]

I got this one...



burn. :haha:

 

[AtomicPunk]

wool floats

yep, replacing all my foam.

 

[Idok]

 

[WFO Speedracer]

Well there you go I guess, if that had been a Yamaha doing fountains like that , it would most certainly have ingested water and died, I witnessed just such an event at the Smith Lake freeride two weeks ago. ancake:



Power to the Sheeple !

 

[SkiDiggity]

sorry that video does not solve anything so he can do a bunch of flat water stuff on a 650 you can flat water role a stock superjet with the right technique

 

[nightrider05]

^^ Don't you have some unfinished builds to be working on?

Just because you have a few blown motors in your shop, doesn't mean that a certain brand is unreliable. I don't know many people that just allow their stuff to rust up completely after being damaged. Shows how well the customer actually cared for their stuff in the first place.

 

[WFO Speedracer]

^^ Don't you have some unfinished builds to be working on?

Just because you have a few blown motors in your shop, doesn't mean that a certain brand is unreliable. I don't know many people that just allow their stuff to rust up completely after being damaged. Shows how well the customer actually cared for their stuff in the first place.

When you build crappy power valve setups and secure oil lines with zip ties what the customer does becomes fairly irrelevant, you miss the point apparently, the number of blown up irreparable Yamaha products that come through here every year is staggering, what I posted is whats here right now, it in no way reflects the number of blown Yamaha's I do on a yearly basis nor is it the complete number of blown Yamaha's here right now. Yamaha's easily double the amount of Kawasaki and Seadoo motors I build yearly combined, maybe your Yamaha runs flawlessly it doesn't mean that all Yamahas do. Still does not explain the price difference in parts either.