Will freestyling become a 'thing of the past"?

brett

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Location
Ventura,ca
yamaha is producing an 09 yz125.........the overseas demand will probably continue. worst case scenario is we gotta order parts from europe or australia, etc, or they kick us out of the surf for good-in that case its over.
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
I would like to see a dry sump fuel injected v4 of about 800ccs shim under bucket camshaft,one per cylinder bank,four valves per cylinder with a downdraft intake that makes a straight shot to the piston.Throw in an ass load of ignition advance and free flowing exhaust system exiting out both sides to the rear and you would have a good platform.
 

crammit442

makin' legs
Location
here
With all due respect Gil, that has very little to do with the motors and every bit to do with the difference between a transmission + tire and a jetpump, which is TERRIBLY inefficient.

Matt's right. Think about this. The 450 makes horsepower #'s in the low to mid 50's. Your stroker makes somewhere around 250 hp
(since it's an LPW). I don't know how much hp my motor makes but it whoops yours and the 450.:veryhappy:
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
Matt's right. Think about this. The 450 makes horsepower #'s in the low to mid 50's. Your stroker makes somewhere around 250 hp
(since it's an LPW). I don't know how much hp my motor makes but it whoops yours and the 450.:veryhappy:


Regrettably direct drive jet pumps suck lots of hp,the engines in the snowmobiles make ridiculous hp numbers but the torque numbers aren't there,you have to have the torque to have any kind of bottom end,without torque whats the point?
 

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
Matt's right. Think about this. The 450 makes horsepower #'s in the low to mid 50's. Your stroker makes somewhere around 250 hp
(since it's an LPW). I don't know how much hp my motor makes but it whoops yours and the 450.:veryhappy:

I actually dyno'ed my 05 CRF450 and it was 59hp at the rear wheel THANK YOU very much. Yours whoops mine? WhatutalkinboutWillis? I think it's time for a Snapple Intervention, the chit is makin u delerious. LOL
 

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
With all due respect Gil, that has very little to do with the motors and every bit to do with the difference between a transmission + tire and a jetpump, which is TERRIBLY inefficient.

no dis-respect taken, and u make a very good point.
 

WFO Speedracer

A lifetime ban is like a lifetime warranty !
Location
Alabama
I actually dyno'ed my 05 CRF450 and it was 59hp at the rear wheel THANK YOU very much. Yours whoops mine? WhatutalkinboutWillis? I think it's time for a Snapple Intervention, the chit is makin u delerious. LOL


Damn I see another smack down in your near future Gil,how many does that make this year exactly?:scratchchin:
 

crammit442

makin' legs
Location
here
several. lol

The real smack down is my motor whoopin crammits.

All in good fun, Gil.:beerchug: Your motor is actually running really nice now. I'm just happy that it's finally working out for you. You've certainly been patient. If you can keep it running forward I think you'll be ok.
 

stanton

High on jetskis.
Location
atascadero,ca
i though freestyle already is a thing of the past.

4 stroke will make everything way more expensive and way more time consuming, hard to picture i know!

problem is size weight and water. is it possible to beat a 2 stroke. i say never, there needs to be a serious revolution in motors. i have a feeling its just around the corner...
https://lasers.llnl.gov/
 

GIL

Power In The Hands Of Few
Location
Cullman AL
All in good fun, Gil.:beerchug: Your motor is actually running really nice now. I'm just happy that it's finally working out for you. You've certainly been patient. If you can keep it running forward I think you'll be ok.

Agreed. I would not have made myself near as crazy had I not ridden your ski's after I got my motor.
 

global warmer

big time gas pumper
Location
on the beach
well most the small boats at my club have gone from 2stroke outboard motors to 4stroke outboard's dont hear too many complaints!just like when i had my fireblade so did everyone else!now they all want a vtr1000 sp1 or sp2=v-twin =more bottom end grunt with high hp numbers,look at the 08 blade 185hp 1000cc stock,without mr turbo or nos....wow.....i say bring it on...just make it light/compact like that 50hp rotary powered go kart on utube its the size of a big mac..or two!!!!
 

THRUST

ThrustInnovations.com
There is still nobody riding thumpers in FMX though....
that is not true there was just an aussie guy i believe riding one in the x games . it will come it just maybe 10 years two strokes are produced for other markets not just for the us due to emmisions but there are other countries that dont care at the moment like south america they have 700cc vx yamahas.


With a completely sealed engine compartment the saltwater would probably be less of a problem than you would think....an electric motor has no intake :Banane09:

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