Witch is better b pipe or type 9

I am in the process of building a freeride ski. i am wondering what is to be a better pipe for low end mid range. So let me know if the b pipe is still the way to go or a type 9.
 

Sospikey

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Here we go...:Banane01:
Everybody will tell you b-pipe. Haven't tried either, to be honest. I use a dry pipe, see my sig. Pulls hard, but I can't compare to much.
 

Matt_E

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Type 9 makes more power, but needs more maintenance.
People like B-pipes for simplicity and low maintenance - not for power. (If they do, they haven't tried properly set up drypipes)

JMHO.

I have not personally tried a Type 9, but I have owned a Speedwerx Dry, and I have ridden skis with Type 4 and Riva Freeride Dry pipes.
They all have incredible pull in the mid-to top range.
When set up properly (water routing, ignition, compression, porting), they beat the B-pipe on the bottom end, too.
 
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Type 9 makes more power, but needs more maintenance.
People like B-pipes for simplicity and low maintenance - not for power. (If they do, they haven't tried properly set up drypipes)

JMHO.

I have not personally tried a Type 9, but I have owned a Speedwerx Dry, and I have ridden skis with Type 4 and Riva Freeride Dry pipes.
They all have incredible pull in the mid-to top range.
When set up properly (water routing, ignition, compression, porting), they beat the B-pipe on the bottom end, too.

What kinda of maintenace has to be done to the dry pipe. i am looking for the most low end mid range that i can have i am running T/L porting 185psi
 

Matt_E

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You need to make sure the pipe is aligned right when installing, or you'll keep blowing O-rings and couplers.
You need to make sure you have some strainer for the pipe cooling installed or you might keep clogging up the pipe and overheating.
A motor with a drypipe will require higher octane gas than the same motor with a wet pipe (B-Pipe), because it will rev higher and hotter.
It can be difficult to do maintenance on drypiped skis because they are huge and in the way.
They can be hard to remove and install.
 
i've had a b-pipe for a few years now on a decent powered limited type 82cc, 190psi compression good ignition and carb set up and i'm pretty happy with it. i did buy a type 9 pipe last week that chuck at Xscream will be setting up soon. he said i will see a good differance with this pipe set up. the pipe is much larger and heavier i hope i can tell you a lot more in a few weeks.
 
i've had a b-pipe for a few years now on a decent powered limited type 82cc, 190psi compression good ignition and carb set up and i'm pretty happy with it. i did buy a type 9 pipe last week that chuck at Xscream will be setting up soon. he said i will see a good differance with this pipe set up. the pipe is much larger and heavier i hope i can tell you a lot more in a few weeks.

I would like to know what you think.

I have a b pipe on my 08 superjet and an a fx1. But B pipes have not changed in years so i just think the newer pipes have to be way better just need to put on right.
 

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The torque & horsepower curve is stronger on the b-pipe up to about 6500 rpm which makes them popular for freestyle/freeride setups.

How much of your riding is done above 6500 rpm?
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keefer

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It's hard to argue with those numbers given the low maintenance and ease of install with the B pipe. The dry pipes do rip hard in the mid / upper RPMs but I think I will stick with the tried and true B mod.
 

brett

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I would like to know what you think.

I have a b pipe on my 08 superjet and an a fx1. But B pipes have not changed in years so i just think the newer pipes have to be way better just need to put on right.

why would the "newer" pipes be better? the b-pipe hasnt changed because they sell every one they make! the prices of used pipes tell the story. if you like to tune motors and play with setups or are building a big bore flatwater freestyle boat run a dry pipe but if your just buildin a limited style freeride or surf ski then run the "b"
 
The torque & horsepower curve is stronger on the b-pipe up to about 6500 rpm which makes them popular for freestyle/freeride setups.

How much of your riding is done above 6500 rpm?
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so are you telling me chuck is wrong?? :thinkerg:
i have not seen your ski out come on the water is great :nutkick:
 
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The torque & horsepower curve is stronger on the b-pipe up to about 6500 rpm which makes them popular for freestyle/freeride setups.

How much of your riding is done above 6500 rpm?
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those #'s say it all to me.


I have owned and sold 3 dry pipes. I would go to a light weight hull before I would ever spend the time and money to get a dry pipe to hit low again.

I actually can say that I HATE them. Like I want to run one over with my Jeep.
 
What i dont understand is if the b pipes are so great witch they have not changed from day one. Why is malone and all them running dry pipes i mean there pipe is no different then the type 9 other than layed down so the flow is better for power b/c of less bends. i am building a boat to do freestyle on it will be flatwater i dont ride surf.
 

brett

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it comes down to user freindly-ness. a dry will get you more power but its more work and more tuning etc. malones 1000+ cc of a monster motor needs more flow than a b pipe.

i guess it all depends on how gnarly of a motor your planning to build
 

tom21

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The torque & horsepower curve is stronger on the b-pipe up to about 6500 rpm which makes them popular for freestyle/freeride setups.

How much of your riding is done above 6500 rpm?
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its 7.4 more horsepower!!!!

how do those numbers change when you modify the motor? with some porting does the dry gain any over the wet?

yea sure he may be running near stock now but give it a season or two and when his motor is all pimped out will he need a better pipe?

just curious - can you find the HP and torque for the protec so we can compare?
 

Watty

Random Performance
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If I had a stock engine with compression increase....I'd run a B.

If I had a ported engine, cases, overbore, TL, I'd run a Type 9.

Dry pipes don't do all that much to a stock engine, apart from you more top end, and more mid when coupled with some bigger carbs. Give a dry pipe some decent air pressure and flow to work with, and hold on....

My preference for any built engine is the type 9, but if I'm building a ski that I want to leave the hood on and just fill it with gas, the b-pipe gets the nod.

The bottom line....all out power, type 9....reliabilty, b-pipe. In saying that, most people wouldn't notice the difference between a b-pipe and a type 9 on the same engine setup unless they were told....
 
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