650/X-2 X-2 Help and Info

Monster89d

Major League Bomb Tech
Location
Savannah, GA
Alright guys Im getting interested in getting an X-2. My experience has been with SJ and Kawi stand ups so this seems a little foreign to me. I guess my questions are:
Is it worth putting the money into one?
I mostly ride flatwater freestyle with a little surf when I make it to the beach. What is a good setup for flatwater?
What year or specific things should I be looking for in my first one?
How do they differ from stunting and riding a stand up?
Thanks for any info or help you guys can give me
 
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Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
"Is it worth putting the money into one?"

No. A X2 is going to take far more to be a good ski than getting a SJ and doing a fix steer conversion hood. If you want a X2, build a X2. If you want a great flatwater freestyle ski, save yourself the trouble and buy a superjet.

"I mostly ride flatwater freestyle with a little surf when I make it to the beach. What is a good setup for flatwater?"
Drop in a 750/800 to race bouy's, but you don't want to race bouy's... A good flatwater setup is a yamaha motor (a few people make conversion plates to bolt them in w/ the kawi pump), an exhaust and custom hoses to match your new motor, a SJ pump (Kawi pump works, but SJ pumps are easier, more reliable, and have more different parts avail... not sure it's worth the work to make the conversion, but if you want the best...), Nose fill/mod (that's what all the Japs do), possibly tubbies (Tom21 sells a set, but I don't believe the japs are using them), shorten the hull 1-4 inches, AM steering (UMI, accusteer, modded stock), hood mods to keep the water out (X2s like to sink, fast), bilges, ummm... start with that...

"What year or specific things should I be looking for in my first one?"
Any year with a "Squirrel Cage" steering (direct steer on them like to bend), a title and a good deal

"How do they differ from stunting and riding a stand up?"
The motor sits far forward so they are heavy in the nose. The poorly designed bottom makes the water spray infront of you so you constantly feel like you are drowning. The ski falls over sideways at 35+ MPH for no reason even if you are doing everything right. The weight forward makes the pump break free in hard turns (hense the leg dragging). They are harder to get on because you can't reach the bars as easy as a stand up (you have to pull yourself up to them, you can side start but the fuxass hood seal lets tons of water in while you do this), the fixed steer not attached to the hood makes working on them a complete bitch, I still haven't been able to get my craftsmen wrench out from where I dropped in by the head pipe, I am probably going to have to pull the fuel tank to get to it, you have to pull the motor to access your bilges, or anything else you place back there, it sucks. The narrower hull makes it suck to work on the motor, no space, and, it's a complete bitch to make anything larger than a stock part fit into the hull, everything has to be custom, my exhaust for example is a 650 manifold with a SJ chamber, SJ waterbox and a 550 tank because the X2 tank wont fit anymore. There's more...

That's a good start. The moral of the story is don't expect it to be an easy build, expect a lot of custom work, and expect you have a need to keep a tool box nearby at all times. There's no such thing as a bolt on part for a X2, even if it was made for the X2. A X2 makes a good second ski. Buy a SJ, 650sx, SXR, w/e as a 1st/primary ski. Plan on the X2 being a hobby.

If you read that and still want to own a X2, then you are just as F'ed up as the rest of us X2 owners and you will fit right in.

Cheers.
 
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I personally hate working on my x2 but I have ridden every stand up except a octane and the x2 to me is the most exciting to ride but vumad is right about second ski a lot of times on the water I wish I had a old stand up to go with it. If I were you I would find a nice light ski to do some free style then look at a x2 as a second ski. But its always fun to mix it up with a x2 because they are definitively different to ride.
 

Monster89d

Major League Bomb Tech
Location
Savannah, GA
Ill be pulling my SJ out of storage plus grabbing a new one from Steve PWC when I get back from this deployment. I just wanted something different to learn. Thanks alot for the info guys. I like doing custom work so I think Ill be joining you in the X-2 club.
 

Vumad

Super Hero, with a cape!
Location
St. Pete, FL
Ill be pulling my SJ out of storage plus grabbing a new one from Steve PWC when I get back from this deployment. I just wanted something different to learn. Thanks alot for the info guys. I like doing custom work so I think Ill be joining you in the X-2 club.

Sounds like a great plan. I love my X2. I just wish I was in your situation. A good strong ski and a X2 back up. I just have the X2, it's a constant frustration.
 

Monster89d

Major League Bomb Tech
Location
Savannah, GA
I dont mind putting the money into a ski. all the ones ive built before have ended with me getting most of my money out of them so I figure it will be worth it. if i get into it and i dont like it i figure ill sell the x2 and put the money back into a waveblaster. (something else I want to try eventually) Anybody know of a x2 for sale around the MD, VA, or PA area?
 
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