Custom/Hybrid X2 #2 Mach 6 build

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This is a hull I got in Gasden from TNGIBBS,I have many ideas I have been kicking around, some are from other peoples builds,some all mine,first and foremost that tower has to go.I am tired of trying to dig around back there,next I want the tower to become part of the hood.I bought a tower brace from Jetskihaven yesterday and that will incorporate into this build.

Here are my thoughts,first I need more room in the engine bay,there is a possibility that a 951 can go in here,I am not saying it will but it just might,also the hood on these weighs a ton.I saw somewhere 27 lbs.One of the glass hoods I saw weighs 9 lbs,so if you can lop off 18lbs with just the hood you should be able to lop off even more with a one piece hood and tower assy,especially if its done out of carbon fiber.

The tower brace will be attached to the hood in the front and will be the front hood hinge,I have to go direct steer like on the Jap hull to do this but that doesn't seem that difficult to me,the trim will also have to be reworked for this style hood to work,again no biggie.

I will probably be cutting and slicing some parts from the other hull or I may just build some molds and go that route.Don't expect any rapid progress on this money is tight and I have way more time than money these days.
 

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WFO Speedracer

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Yeah it finally let up,that took me about ten minutes,I was thinking I can use some of that structural foam product and shape it to fit inside the hull .Then I can make my seal lip out of that.They use the same stuff now for plastic molding in high dollar building construction,my brother scored me a ton of scraps from his construction site.I can attach it to the hull with screws and use the router to make the new seal lip,glass it in with epoxy and a few layers of glass and I should be golden.
 
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WFO Speedracer

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Pieces are cut heated with the propane torch,there are a few burn spots there,those will be ground off before I glue the pieces in and glass it over.Then it is screwed to the hull,I just used drywall screws because these will have to come off the hull several times before its over,the screws will also be used when epoxying the pieces to the hull.

I have to do a little more shaping then gauge block it,the height will have to be the same all the way around then I can run the router down it and complete the seal lip portion.I will then lay a few layers of glass over it and call it a done deal,there will have to be some creative forming along the transition areas at the corners and the rear as well.
 

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WFO Speedracer

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The body work is childs play ,well at least for me it is,the fun part will be figuring out the steering and the trim I suspect.Then we get to the really fun part making a new hood,yep you heard right,I am going to chop up a hood glue it to the tower piece to configure a plug then make a mold and just make a new lightweight hood.
 
tom21

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as I told Vumad, make sure you reinforce the front and sides because now it basically is the strength of the ski, and if you try it on a virgin ski you can stand on the ski and grip the bars and twist the hull like 1/4 inch. now you cut most of the angles away it will be even weaker.

also if you ever noticed how Pete Jacobs skis had stress cracks near the extinguisher pocket, whenyou start to look at most x-2's they have em to a lesser degree. that is the next weak spot.

not saying it won't work, just that now you added back all that weight saved. I think the best way to do it is make a plug and lay up a new hull. but if you have the time and money its a kickass way to make something new and cool. the bad thing is if you like it you may end up destroying the mold in the process. do you really want to do it twice?
 
WFO Speedracer

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tom21 said:
as I told Vumad, make sure you reinforce the front and sides because now it basically is the strength of the ski, and if you try it on a virgin ski you can stand on the ski and grip the bars and twist the hull like 1/4 inch. now you cut most of the angles away it will be even weaker.

also if you ever noticed how Pete Jacobs skis had stress cracks near the extinguisher pocket, whenyou start to look at most x-2's they have em to a lesser degree. that is the next weak spot.

not saying it won't work, just that now you added back all that weight saved. I think the best way to do it is make a plug and lay up a new hull. but if you have the time and money its a kickass way to make something new and cool. the bad thing is if you like it you may end up destroying the mold in the process. do you really want to do it twice?
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There are a few things you are not taking in to consideration here,first it will be an all new carbon fiber hood,the old tower and and old hood will be chopped up for a plug ,serious weight savings no matter how you look at it.

Second there is a tower brace going in there,it will be attached to the hood and tower section,it should greatly improve the strength and rigidty of the piece,actually it should be damn near bulletproof.

Third,that hull is about a 1/4 inch thick in the tower section,I don't think its going anywhere,by using carbon I can maintain the strength and greatly decrease the weight,I do plan to reinforce the hull areas with carbon or kevlar also the pvc material that I am using for the seal lip areas adds unbelievable strength and rigidity when used as a core material with just regular glass ,even more so with carbon fiber.

Fourth I plan to take the stock braces and rework them to attach to the rear sides of the ski,that should add some strength there and prevent flex since it triangulates the load to the bottom of the ski.

Fifth its a flatwater ski,its not like I will be jumping ten foot waves with it and I surely will never ride as well or as hard as Pete does.I usually don't just start cutting stuff up and worry about how its going to work later ,I have usually worked it out in my head for months before I ever make the first cut.
 
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tom21

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Cool- I just wanted to make sure you were on your game. I am not worried so much about the hood as I am about the hull. just for :):):):)s and giggles go twist a stocker by the bars and let us know how your improved hull does when its done.

also all that foam and reinforcing is gonna cut that weight savings - no matter what you SAAAAAAAY!:moon: its still material going back on. again- I dig it.

but you should weigh it before and after so I can :nana:
 
WFO Speedracer

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tom21 said:
Cool- I just wanted to make sure you were on your game. I am not worried so much about the hood as I am about the hull. just for :):):):)s and giggles go twist a stocker by the bars and let us know how your improved hull does when its done.

also all that foam and reinforcing is gonna cut that weight savings - no matter what you SAAAAAAAY!:moon: its still material going back on. again- I dig it.

but you should weigh it before and after so I can :nana:
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What is this foam you speak of ,am I missing something here?
 
Vumad

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I'm interested in seeing how it works out for you. I really want to go back to tinkering but medic school and my new house are sucking me dry of time and money. I have a lot of faith in my concept and the one you are working on now. I'd like to see it succeed and I'm really hoping ou do it and it works.

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WFO Speedracer

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I was looking at the rear braces today,I will be using either two right side or two left side braces and making a new piece to weld to the top,possibly going under the hood lip area and attaching to the hull there,looks very promising so far and should add needed support to the under seat area.
 
WFO Speedracer

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Goody box arrived today from Jetskihaven,I went ahead and installed it,just to make sure it would work as I had planned,and of course it did,now I need to make a trip to the local jetski junkyard for a beater hood to modify. Notice I flipped the front part that attaches under the hood hinge and the brace is also the front hood hinge.
 

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WFO Speedracer

WFO Speedracer

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tom21 said:
I was referring to whatever the material you are building up the lip with is.

is it done yet? jeez you are almost as slow as me.
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Ah I see,thats PVC foam it weighs nothing shapes easily and epoxy bonds tenaciously to it ,it makes an excellent core material.
 
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