I was told they are now 10800 and 7lbs lighter then the carbon competion xfs (not the carbon xfs). It puts them around 70lbs. Rickter-rrp does not like posting weights they don't like comparing. Please remember if rickter says 70lbs that means hood, turf, bracket, paint, and ftholds. I would like to order one will see how my winter fortunes treat me. Also like posted above there is 2 models, a public version 70lbs and sponsored riders 35-40lbs (don't quote me just what I was told) hope this helps a little bit. Also a carbon xfs is 9500. So ninja is more $$$