XFT Light Weight Hull or 5mm Lamey Stroker?..

[CoreyLKN]

I think i would go with a hull for the simple fact that it is not as likely to break and will help tyour riding a ton.

If you went with the motor you would have to make sure it was set up correctly and never run to lean plus if you get water in there and bend a rod your looking at bog bucks where as the hull has alot smaller chance of breaking.

 

[crammit442]

the light weight of the xft is nice, but imo it is harder to ride, feels like a cork bobbing on the water, I may just need more time on it. I would say get the engine first then get a hull later. plan well ahead, it will take a long time to get it

I think you are correct about getting used to it. The first time out on mine I wasn't sure if maybe I hadn't made a mistake getting the hull. It rides nose high at first and is very buoyant so it feels a little goofy the first few rides. Now when I get on my SS boat I can barely ride it at first. I would absolutely buy another XFT. It retains the OE superjet handling, but is much snappier and more nimble. The only others I would even consider are Lightweight DE and possibly Trinity depending on what he comes up with for yamaha and how it looks. I would get the hull first. I love my XFT. I don't really ride that well, but it sure is fun!:biggthumpup:

Charles

 

[Kaveman]

Just bought an XFT. Haven't assembled the boat yet so I can't say how it handles. I already have a lamey 6mm pv. The engine does have an incredible hit immediately off idle. I have it currently in a stock heavily reinforced hull (probably 125-135lbs.) Backflips are still not coming around on flat water. Maintenance is something to consider. The crank should be rebuilt EVERY season to avoid ruining an expensive set of cases and cylinder. Pistons when they need to be replace are about $200 each before clearancing them to accomodate the longer stroke.Yes, if you ingest too much water it will definitely fry your rods (been there.) I love my lamey but all the horsepower comes at a very expensive cost.

Try this. Find a way to temporarily add 50 lbs. to your hull now. Ride it and notice the HUGE difference. I think the hull is going to be the best for the money and It looks great too!

 

[Superjetjim]

Try this. Find a way to temporarily add 50 lbs. to your hull now. Ride it and notice the HUGE difference. I think the hull is going to be the best for the money and It looks great too!

That's a great peice of advice - never thought of it like that..

 

[crammit442]

Also, who would be building the stroker? Makes a difference for sure.

Charles

 

[geraban19]

Motor always.

 

[GIL]

Just bought an XFT. Haven't assembled the boat yet so I can't say how it handles. I already have a lamey 6mm pv. The engine does have an incredible hit immediately off idle. I have it currently in a stock heavily reinforced hull (probably 125-135lbs.) Backflips are still not coming around on flat water. Maintenance is something to consider. The crank should be rebuilt EVERY season to avoid ruining an expensive set of cases and cylinder. Pistons when they need to be replace are about $200 each before clearancing them to accomodate the longer stroke.Yes, if you ingest too much water it will definitely fry your rods (been there.) I love my lamey but all the horsepower comes at a very expensive cost.

Try this. Find a way to temporarily add 50 lbs. to your hull now. Ride it and notice the HUGE difference. I think the hull is going to be the best for the money and It looks great too!

I think what this guy is sayin is-TRY TO FREESTYLE A SXR!!! Been there and done that-what a pain in the azz. I love my SJ and want a XFT.

 

[Superjetjim]

Your right, just looked at the stock weights:

SXR = Weight: 351 lbs.
Superjet = Weight 291Ibs

60Ibs heavier..

 

[FL-cracker]

I agree with Otis. The XFT that I have time on seems to float so high in the water I can't get it to hook up when on it's side. Meaning you can't put one foot in the tray and pull yourself up. You have to stop and get behind the ski and start from there. I really like the feeling of the light weight but it does take some getting used to. I would vote for the motor because of the whole getting used to it part. But different AM hulls might be different. But the seat of the pants feeling, the hull would give more exitement.

And Darin, Lous ski weighed in at 255 he has the reinforced flat water version. So your numbers are off a bit.

My reinforced OEM weighs 265 complete.... after taking off a 5lb waterlogged OEM chinpad :bigeyes: ....... Looks like my imagination saved myself about 7k :woot:..... not to metion I would bet any amount of $$$$ my hull will last 10x longer with the same rider on it in the surf!..... who am I kidding, If I had the $$$$ I would be all over a Trinity Composite Light weight..... but It would be in the 220lb range.... about like a 450f dirt-bike :biggrin:

 

[THRUST]

take it this way would you by a race car frame and body and put a stock engine in it .or would you do as many mods or motor swaps until you needed a stronger frame or body ? you can always rebuild the motor if by chance something does fail. i set up alot of this exact set up and they have proven to be very reliable . really do both

 

[ski4]

Engines need maintenance that costs money. Hulls do not.

or so you would hope

 

[Matt_E]

Indeed I would, for that sort of money. :biggthumpup:

 

[danjrowan]

get the hull dude, it looks wicked and you are not going to have to maintain it constantly.
plus you can let me ride it! lol
the hull will be wicked, all of your triks will be huge.
just make sure madrik doesnt bakflip it first!!!!!
question: i have not heard of bending rods when u getwater in your ski, except for price, is there any reason that makes it more likely on a lamey?

 

[thegoldenboy]

Hull no doubt.

I'll buy an aftermarket hull before a new motor anyday.

 

[Superjetjim]

Just for the record - I bought the motor in the end (which is great) but I should have gone with hull.. rode an XFT the other day and WOW!! - that had the same motor as I used to have (62t 753) and it was night and day better than a stocker with a 6mm Lamey.

 

[FL-cracker]

Yup...

 

[Matt_E]

A bigger motor will probably cost about the same as nice a/m hull.
It will eat more gas, and it's more expensive if it breaks.

The hull, well, no moving parts.

 

[Flat Brapp]

Hull. My next setup will be a A/M hull and a stock bore, stock stroke bpipe'd 62T/61x. I learned my lesson this season, big motors are a waist when they grenade.

 

[yamanube]

Hull. My next setup will be a A/M hull and a stock bore, stock stroke bpipe'd 62T/61x. I learned my lesson this season, big motors are a waist when they grenade.

I am feeling the exact same way, maybe next year.....

 

[FL-cracker]

If you buy a GOOD aftermarket hull it should last many years ( XFT or Trinity)... If you dont mind a heavier ski that will hold up, then Watercraft Factory may be fine.

A built motor will just cause lots of headacs, and you boat will still feel really heavy.

After riding a Trinity lightweight SXR, and Pat's Orange X-scream SJ, I can tell you the only Hull I would spend my hard earned money on is the Trinity SXR based hull..... Not just because his work is clean, and his 66lb Carbon hull can handle a huge lawn dart in -2ft of water but because the fact that the SXR hull just works that fuggin awsome.... Light, Stable, Boyant, and handles like it is on rails.

In the way of Light weight, high horse power boats the Superjet is old news, like it or not the SXR bottom is a far superior Setup..... Ask Josh, Malone, Riverrat, Superramjet.... pretty much anybody who has ridden a Trinity or EME, they will tell you that the SXR is the best of the best.

Superjets are gona be for poor people like myself before long.... All it takes is one ride on a Trinity boat to know exactly what Im talking about.