Any cons on these.I tried one over the weekend on 2nd natures ski.Took a second to get use to not having a spring.love the looks of them .is there another pole besides stock out there that compares.
xmetal pole thoughts.
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Big Kahuna
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well, it was designed especially for freestyle/freeride by one of the best freestylers out there......... nobody else can clame that about their pole....... besides that, it really is a good pole, more riders use his setup than any other...... If it breaks, Pat will take care of it....................
yes, the no spring part does take a bit to get use to but after a while you forget about it. I have even raced my SJ with that setup..............
yes, the no spring part does take a bit to get use to but after a while you forget about it. I have even raced my SJ with that setup..............
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- Clearwater, FL
It's definitely a really nice pole, but I just don't like the fact of not having a spring. I don't like having a loose pole either. I've ridden plenty of ski's with tight poles like the xmetal and I like the fact that it's stiff, but it seems like I am always fighting to keep it in one spot.
I have a shortened stock handlepole and blowsion spring. I tightened up my bracket so it has that stiff feel to it without being too tight where I feel I am fighting the pole and then the spring helps keep it up so I don't feel like I am holding it up either. Personally I think that's the best of both worlds.
When and if my stock pole every breaks and if I have the $$$ then I'll probably buy an xmetal. I definitely think Xmetals are the best aftermarket pole out there(Best value also), but in my opinion if you're on a budget and you've got a stock RN pole then shorten that and ride it till you break it.
I have a shortened stock handlepole and blowsion spring. I tightened up my bracket so it has that stiff feel to it without being too tight where I feel I am fighting the pole and then the spring helps keep it up so I don't feel like I am holding it up either. Personally I think that's the best of both worlds.
When and if my stock pole every breaks and if I have the $$$ then I'll probably buy an xmetal. I definitely think Xmetals are the best aftermarket pole out there(Best value also), but in my opinion if you're on a budget and you've got a stock RN pole then shorten that and ride it till you break it.
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- Clearwater, FL
If you take a look at my ski in my avatar and notice how the stock pole looks like it's floating, it actually isn't. If I want it to be in that position then I have to move it there like you would an xmetal. The spring isn't making it float like most spring poles. Like I said before I think it's a great setup because I can move my pole to the level I want it then leave it there and it won't move, but at the same time it's loose enough so I'm not fighting it. Now if you use a springless pole and try to make it the same "not too stiff" feeling then it will fall down because of not having a spring then you feel like you are always holding the handlepole up which also sucks.
Well I'll get off my soap box, but if you haven't ridden a stock pole that has been tightened and has an aftermarket spring then try it.
Well I'll get off my soap box, but if you haven't ridden a stock pole that has been tightened and has an aftermarket spring then try it.
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yamaslut
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I really like mine
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Rickster
Matakana Menace
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- Bay of Plenty, NZ
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- Clearwater, FL
Tell us more. I haven't heard of anyone successfully using a spring with an xmetal. Thats awesome though if you can.
I am not entirely sure....but it seems the reason you don't hear of anyone doing that is because they like the dual bolt/stiff setup.
Maybe I am missing something....but I am not sure why you couldn't run a spring on it. Perhaps you need to rig something for stopping the spring in the bracket, but that shouldn't be too hard.
Maybe I am missing something....but I am not sure why you couldn't run a spring on it. Perhaps you need to rig something for stopping the spring in the bracket, but that shouldn't be too hard.
RadRat
www.proridermag.com
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XMW for LIFE!
Big Kahuna
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- Tuscaloosa, AL
just get the single hole in the pole bracket............ with the dual breather tubes it takes up alot of space.
sjetrider
615 Freeriders are addicted to T1 madness.
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A/C is the best IMO, not as pretty, but you can run tight w/ a spring or tight w/o a spring and it AINT GONNA break so no need to have it replaced to begin with. I like Pat as well (I even bought his old A/C pole from him) but not a fan of cast top and bottom poles or the spring option being removed.
Pat does stand by his work though and ALOT of people love this pole for a reason I am sure. Just throwing out another point of view.
Pat does stand by his work though and ALOT of people love this pole for a reason I am sure. Just throwing out another point of view.
so are you saying that the breather tubes get in the way when tightening the bolts?
i have this same problem but im willing to struggle to get that massive air flow the dual breather is massive!
sjetrider
615 Freeriders are addicted to T1 madness.
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He is saying if you want to run a spring use single tube not dual tube.
SJBrit
Extraordinary Alien
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- Bradenton, FL
I agree. The stocker is easy to shorten, light weight and cheap (free!!). It'll let you know when you need a stronger pole - sometimes rather dramatically! When it does, XMetal all the way....
