icecoled007
Captain of this ship
- Location
- Colorado
I guess the main reason I was looking at the xmetal was because the sub $200 price tag and it cones as a compete kit (plate, bars, clamp,& ect)
Freestyle Xscream Turnplate
- Thread starter icecoled007
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I guess the main reason I was looking at the xmetal was because the sub $200 price tag and it cones as a compete kit (plate, bars, clamp,& ect)
- Location
- Largo, Fl
The new XScream system is great (had mine for 18 months with year round saltwater riding). I have heard plenty of negatives about the WDK (aside from "availability") and the RRP (aside from price $$$).
I tossed my UMI after dealing with the issues.
CF makes nice stuff too, but I have not seen one of their systems in person.
- Location
- St.catharines, Ontario
I guess the term," you get what you pay for" does apply
icecoled007
Captain of this ship
- Location
- Colorado
Well, I went with the adjustable x-metal, not a huge fan of the adjustability (seems like a cheesy way to get both Kaw + Yam support)
Some of the big selling points was to have the ability to adjust the plate at -3.5 (I am a tall guy and have a stock pole), and how it includes 0* bars and a bearing setup all for under $200!
Ill report back on how it performs!
Some of the big selling points was to have the ability to adjust the plate at -3.5 (I am a tall guy and have a stock pole), and how it includes 0* bars and a bearing setup all for under $200!
Ill report back on how it performs!
What negatives are there, I love mine! The only thing you could knock it on is the bearing isnt stainless, But mine is wicked!
- Location
- Lake Havasu City, AZ USA
Just in case you guys didnt know, X-metal is blowing out their old style short plates complete with plate, bushings, clamps and bars for $135. Great price!
http://www.xmetalworks.com/products/xscream+steering+system/11
http://www.xmetalworks.com/products/xscream+steering+system/11
Thats what Im about to order. At that price Im fine with it comming loose and just re-tightening it haha
icecoled007
Captain of this ship
- Location
- Colorado
- Location
- Largo, Fl
spend the extra for this one, MUCH better.
http://www.xmetalworks.com/products/xscream+adjustable+steering+system/73
http://www.xmetalworks.com/products/xscream+adjustable+steering+system/73
Proformance1
Liquid Insanity
- Location
- New York Crew
At 135 that is a deal with bars etc. Buy a longer stainless steel bolt, and double nut it. It works pretty good that way, I used half height nuts and the topper is urethane locking. Load it with red locktite
icecoled007
Captain of this ship
- Location
- Colorado
Lol this was all what my OP was about...
I decided it was worth a little extra for the newer/bearing setup.
- Location
- Lake Havasu City, AZ USA
Comes with the bushings... All you have to do is put the nut in a vice and barely pinch it. It wont come loose then. Also you can loctite it after you pinch the nut....
hehe, he said pinch the nut.
Riser bars and new style XMW steering = no. A very novel idea, but obviously not for every setup.
The Cold Fusion riser bar steering is pretty much the all round best steering system on the market IMO. You can use straight bars, riser bars and get rid of the swing effect by rolling the bars forward. The best part is it's two piece and uses the oem bushings for support and easy maintenance. I always hated the way the bearing style steering systems always had play in them due to the squashing of the o-rings. This problem seems to be highlighted with the use of riser bars. Having the large area style OEM bushings make the steering more rigid and transfers the weight/leverage more effectively without the risk of damage. Horses for courses....
The Cold Fusion riser bar steering is pretty much the all round best steering system on the market IMO. You can use straight bars, riser bars and get rid of the swing effect by rolling the bars forward. The best part is it's two piece and uses the oem bushings for support and easy maintenance. I always hated the way the bearing style steering systems always had play in them due to the squashing of the o-rings. This problem seems to be highlighted with the use of riser bars. Having the large area style OEM bushings make the steering more rigid and transfers the weight/leverage more effectively without the risk of damage. Horses for courses....
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
you can use riser bars with almost any steering set up, you dont need fat bars! Just go to any bike store and pick up a set of 7/8" chromolly riser bars. I picked mine up for $30
How does one mount the steering arm to the riser bars on the new XMW setup?
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
Ya thats one of the only plate you can't run the bars with, I was just saying you dont need to buy a quick steer plate for fat bars to run them. The old style will work
ok, Im having trouble making up my mind. Im looking for whats best to use on my freestyle SJ project
Is the only difference between the two x-metal choices the ability to adjust it, and bearings vs. bushings? And also you can adjust the amount of quick turn on the adjustable
Out of the two cold fusion setups, which would be better for freestyle? I was thinking just the universal ones and use 7/8 straight bars, but would the 1-1/8 setup be better with the riser bars turned forward like Watty mentioned? Or is that directed to ocean riding more
Is the only difference between the two x-metal choices the ability to adjust it, and bearings vs. bushings? And also you can adjust the amount of quick turn on the adjustable
Out of the two cold fusion setups, which would be better for freestyle? I was thinking just the universal ones and use 7/8 straight bars, but would the 1-1/8 setup be better with the riser bars turned forward like Watty mentioned? Or is that directed to ocean riding more
icecoled007
Captain of this ship
- Location
- Colorado
Just to post a review as promised:
The adjustable x-metal steering is the bomb! Seriously for $175 I couldn't be happier. I have put many hours on my ski over this summer and havent had to touch/tighten the steering ONCE.
One thing to note, you can put bars on the furthest in setting, it will rub your handle pole. The steering cable rubed my stock pad (like all a/m plates Ive seen done) but has plenty of clearance under my Toby carbon chin pad. I guess I could of also adjusted it in to prevent it from rubbing.
Grinding down the stock pole to make the plate hit the bump stop is a bit of a pain when installing. I took a dremel and was able to clear up enough room. This is cause by the a/m plate sitting much tighter than the OEM one.
Overall this is a no brainier #1 mod for your ski. Makes it so much funner to ride and do nose stabs/180's with. However noob friends will no londer be able to ride your ski due to the "quick steer" function :Banane09:
The plate has never came loose, wabbled, squeeked, or complained ever during the whole summer of riding (knock on wood). Pretty awesome low maintenance setup from the get go. :beerchug:
The adjustable x-metal steering is the bomb! Seriously for $175 I couldn't be happier. I have put many hours on my ski over this summer and havent had to touch/tighten the steering ONCE.
One thing to note, you can put bars on the furthest in setting, it will rub your handle pole. The steering cable rubed my stock pad (like all a/m plates Ive seen done) but has plenty of clearance under my Toby carbon chin pad. I guess I could of also adjusted it in to prevent it from rubbing.
Grinding down the stock pole to make the plate hit the bump stop is a bit of a pain when installing. I took a dremel and was able to clear up enough room. This is cause by the a/m plate sitting much tighter than the OEM one.
Overall this is a no brainier #1 mod for your ski. Makes it so much funner to ride and do nose stabs/180's with. However noob friends will no londer be able to ride your ski due to the "quick steer" function :Banane09:
The plate has never came loose, wabbled, squeeked, or complained ever during the whole summer of riding (knock on wood). Pretty awesome low maintenance setup from the get go. :beerchug:
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